Dante VS Bayonetta

DEATH BATTLE!: Dante VS Bayonetta

DEATH BATTLE is back with a match made in heaven! From Devil May Cry and the Umbra Witches, who will come out on top?

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Boomstick: Chad James - twitter.com/ScrewAttackChad

Writer: Nick Cramer - twitter.com/THENervousNick

Animator: Torrian Crawford - twitter.com/AnimatedTorrii

Animation Assistant: Da Vaughn "Deejay" Henderson Jr. - twitter.com/deejayhyuga

Dante: Stephen Fu - twitter.com/That_Fu

Bayonetta: Marissa Lenti - twitter.com/LentiSoup

Trish: Morgan Berry - twitter.com/TheMorganBerry

Jeanne: Dawn M. Bennett - twitter.com/DawnMBennettVA

Battle Announcer: Christopher Guerrero - twitter.com/ChrisGuerreroVA

3D Modeling: Yare Yare Dongers - yare-yare-dong.deviantart.com/

Motion Capture Actor: John Francis McCullagh twitter.com/johnfmfilms

Sound Design: Noel Wiggins - twitter.com/NOELWIGGINSfilm

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Comments (338)

  • BHigdon98

    2 months ago

    I would like to point out that while dante DOES have a regeneration factor, it's nowhere to the extremes of, say, deadpool who can cut off his own limbs and regenerate them. Also, while Dante DOES possess quicksilver, we only see it for one cutscene and after that we are only allowed to use it for a few seconds at a time during gameplay. Nothing suggests he would be able to hold it for anywhere near as long as Witch Time, which ,may I remind you, is stackable and spammable. Then we come to Yamato, a blade that SUPPOSEDLY cuts through space and time yet consistently cuts through nothing of real importance (ie. Dante's weapons). Also while we're on the subject, why does Dante even have Yamato? He gave it to Nero at the end of DMC4 it's no longer in his repitoire. The only real advantage I can MAYBE see dante having is that one devil trigger from the Manga where he can drain demonic energy. It even says it on the official DB prediction journal on blogspot. Bayonetta trumps Dante in every category. 

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 months ago

      @BHigdon98 You know, you can't win an argument just by nullifying the opponent's points. There's more to debate than forcing "Your argument is invalid" down somebody's throat.

      Point 1.) Just because Dante's healing factor isn't as extreme as Deadpool's doesn't mean it isn't enough for him to survive Bayonetta.

      Point 2.) Okay. Let me put the fallacy behind this argument to bed. The feats of fictional characters are not defined by the experience of the audience. In context: there is nothing in Devil may Cry to suggest that Dante cannot use Quicksilver freely. It's just that the player doesn't get to. It's not fair to say that Dante's Quicksilver is no less readily available than his other Styles just because the player doesn't get free use of it by comparison. Death Battle assumes that these fictional characters exist in their own, independent universes. So if you're saying Dante's Quicksilver is BS just because the player doesn't get to use it, that's like saying all of his styles should disappear when the player stops playing. Sorry, but that logic doesn't hold water. 

      Point 3.) Okay, the thing with Dante giving Yamato to Nero does seem a little confusing. But does it really matter? One space-cutting sword is not going to make or break this match up for Dante. Between his healing factor, Quicksilver, his arsenal outclassing Bayonetta's (the Pandora weapon briefcase could feasibly solo her entire arsenal) and the raindrop obliteration feat, Bayonetta couldn't hold out forever.

      *sighs* Why do fanboys never know how to handle logic?

  • hulker

    6 months ago

    Deadshot vs Bullseye


    Swamp-Thing vs Man-Thing


    Doctor Strange vs Doctor Fate


    Hulk vs Doomsday


    Aquaman vs Namor


    mr fantastic vs plastic man

  • Eternal_Eyes

    8 months ago

    Whiplash vs. Omega Red

  • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    8 months ago

    This has got to be the most stupid-awesome DEATH BATTLE to date. Dante and Bayonetta are two of the most outrageously OP game protagonists imaginable. If there were a top 10 list for character like that, those two would definitely make the list, along with Kratos, Asura, Kriby, The Apprentice from Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, Raiden from Metal Gear Rising...


    Heck, let's turn this into a survey! List who you think are the Top Ten Most Overpowered Game Protagonists. Only rules are that they have to be the only playable character (temporarily using other characters doesn't rule them out).

  • barvs

    11 months ago

    I have a very strong feeling that Monty would've very much enjoyed this one

  • jariesuicune

    11 months ago

    I was kind of looking forward to this (Bayonetta fan)... but wow, this was one of the worst "death battles" yet! For one simple reason: How is it a "death battle" if one of the combatants CAN'T (to any canon method) DIE.
    Yes, it's an action-filled fight, but the whole thing is a terrible matchup. Actually worse than Tifa VS. Yang (Which is terrible due to lack of knowing the limits and actual functions of Aura; they just arbitrarily decided she has unbeatable defense stat based on a single instance, when we've seen her in mortal danger from various situations, only one being a powered sword, which noticeably amputated her arm through her Aura) because here they KNEW one of the combatants CAN'T lose in basic combat. That's not a good fight, ever.

    • MrClassy

      11 months ago

      Watch Starscream vs. Rainbow Dash, if you haven't already. It'll settle the issue.

    • LOUKI10 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Well it was a highly requested DB and it isn't the first or last featuring a character that can't die. Deadpool vs Deathstroke anyone?

    • PoeticallyPsychotic FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      4 months ago

      Dante can definitely die, but it requires more than one blow for sure. While she hit him multiple times, before she impaled him he used Devil Trigger, which makes him regenerate even more than usual. So when she stabbed him through the chest, he was probably at or near full health, and a single human sized sword through the chest has never been enough to stop Dante.

    • B05SxBrennan

      3 months ago

      Dante isn't even close to immortal. He has fast regen, that's it. If you were to completely sever one of Dante's body parts, which Bayonetta could easily do with Diomedes or a Wicked Blade, there's no reason to believe he would be able to regenerate from that. Also, it's been shown in all three of the Vergil boss battles that the brothers' regen can be overtaxed. 

  • nromalo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Slayerking5000

    11 months ago

    Droplet in the ocean here but I think it would be really funny and awesome if Wiz and Boomstick fought Simmons and Sarge from RvB to celebrate the new partnership with Rooster Teeth.

  • BFT9000

    11 months ago

    Captain N vs Captain S. You know you need this. :D

  • ArchangelM77795

    11 months ago

    Deadshot VS bullseye, ironman VS batman, alex mercer (prototype) VS alucard (hellsing)

  • luckyboy7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    HOw about Ken Masters vs Johnny Cage, unless that's for one minute Melee of Death Battle X.

    • g1NovaPrime

      1 year ago

      Ryu vs Johnny Cage since Ken is weaker and the arguement since Scorpion vs Ryu has been that Johnny Cage is better then Ryu. Granted I started that argument way back when by saying it in the first place after the episode lol. I also started the argument that bugzzy beatle from the kirby series is stronger then fat buu and anybody weaker on the dbz roster because he can resist kirby's regular suck up attack and the fat buu couldn't lol.

  • smiegle2 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    If i had to bet, i'd say Bowser is either fighting Mecha Sonic (due to that One Minute Melee) or Ganondorf.

    • g1NovaPrime

      1 year ago

      you mean Ganon from super nintendo or NES right?

  • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

    1 year ago

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    • SuperSmash94

      1 year ago

      Sorry for the stupid question but, is that Dante and Bayonetta's creator?

    • Hive0

      1 year ago

      "Sorry for the stupid question but, is that Dante and Bayonetta's creator?"

      Yeah.

    • SuperSmash94

      1 year ago

      Ah okay, thanks for clarifying

  • SuperSmash94

    1 year ago

    Great battle, the animation and voices were amazing plus Bayonetta and Dante constantly switching weapons really made the animation feel like the games.

    Although this DB leaves a question in my mind, if Bayonetta and Dante ever met would they get along?

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      I think they would either hit it off or hate each other. Probably the former, if they started off on the right foot.

  • The-Gaming-News-Guy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Sir Regent Malcolm Neill

    1 year ago

    Hi guys, whats us "sees comment section - runs away". In all seriousness i liked this battle but it's not perfect by any means

  • g1Geomancer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    DIO vs Alucard

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      XD Battle of the Invincible Vampires. Nice

  • Nightwalker12

    1 year ago

    So how about Dante VS Alucard (Hellsing) ?

    Or Vergil vs Sephiroth?

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Vergil vs Sephiroth is a One-Minute Melee. Vergil won.

      For what it's worth, Dante and Vergil are some of the most overpowered demons in fictional history. The only demonic character who absolutely surpasses them is Bill Cipher. And Bill Cipher is a complete game-breaker.

    • B05SxBrennan

      3 months ago

      «The only demonic character who absolutely surpasses them is Bill Cipher»


      That's really exaggerating their abilities.

  • wandererking

    1 year ago

    Needed Death Battle!s

    • Darkseid vs. Thanos
    • Doctor Fate vs. Doctor Strange
    • Raven vs. Phoenix
    • Red Hood vs. Winter Soldier
    • Wolf Link & Midna vs. Amaterasu & Issun
    • Iceman vs. Human Torch
    • Avatar Aang vs. Captain Planet

    and/or

    • Avatar Korra vs. Gaia
  • Atomfire1

    1 year ago

    I've posted it before and I'll post it again, Asura from Asura's Wrath vs The Hulk from Marvel Comics, and the title shall be, Battle of the Angriest.

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Hulk wins by merit of sheer invincibility.

  • 408612 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I want to see Rocky vs Little mac sometime

  • maswartz FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Ideas for Death Battles
    1. Aquaman vs Namor (lords of the sea, and yes I know about DC vs Marvel but that was by vote)
    2. MMPR Megazord vs Voltron (Giant mecha animal fight!)
    3. Doomsday vs Hulk (RAGE FIGHT)
    4. Captain Planet vs Avatar Aang (Element Fight!)
    5. Skeletor vs Mumm-Ra (Evil version of the He-man vs Lion-o fight)
    6. Freakazoid vs The Mask (Crazy vs Wacky)
    7. The Six Million Dollar Man vs Kamen Rider #1 (70s TV cyborg FIGHT!)
    8. Crash Bandicoot vs Rayman (Third party mascot fight!)
    9. Catwoman vs Black Cat (Cat fight #2!)
    10. Power Girl vs Ms Marvel (Blonde flying powerhouse battle!)
    11. Darkseid vs Thanos (might as well)
    12. Mickey Mouse vs Bugs Bunny (nuff said)
    13. The Flash (Wally West) vs Quicksilver (Yes I know Wally would win in
    instants but I’m tired of people bringing this battle up)
    14. Fantastic Four Battle Royal
    15. Ganondorf vs Dracula (Castlevania) (Evil magic dude fight!)
    16. Winter Soldier vs Red Hood (former sidekick turned antihero FIGHT!)
    17. Kamen Rider Wizard vs Ed Elric (Alchemy fight!)
    18. Luffy vs Naruto (Pirate vs Ninja, and yes I know it wouldn’t shut their fans up)
    19. Winx vs W.I.T.C.H (cartoon magic girl group fight!)
    20. Kamen Rider Black RX vs Blue Beetle III (Bug themed warrior fight!)
    21. Ghost Rider vs Spectre (Vengeance fight!)
    22. Xena vs Red Sonja (warrior woman fight)
    23. Wonder Woman vs She-Ra (honestly I just want Wonder Woman to fight a better opponent)

    • g1NovaPrime

      1 year ago

      Wonder Woman would be cool to see again but you would need another female fighter that can lift infinity.

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Superman did most of the work lifting Spectre

  • g1NovaPrime

    1 year ago

    Great animation not really a fan of either fighter but it was a good fight. I figured Dante would win but was hoping for for Bayonetta because she is hot.


    Please make:

    Scarface the Predator vs The Arbiter

    Thanos vs Darkseid

    Captain Mar-vell vs Captain Marvel

    Brainiac vs Ultron

    Hulk vs Doomsday

    The Street Sharks vs The Extreme Dinosaurs

    The Punisher vs Judge Dredd

    Dr.Strange vs Dr.Fate

    Black Panther vs Azreal Batman

    Namor vs Black Adam

    Geno vs Vivi


    Also stop complaining about old final fantasy fights people. If Tifa was allowed her best weapons and given the lifting Emerald Weapon feat then she SHOULD have been given Master Green Materia also nuff said. Tifa wins lets move on. Unless you honestly think Yang could withstand Master Green Materia (look at the spells it can do including changing somebody into a frog). Even if DB is wrong in this fight they wont go back and change it. They have been wrong other times like with Captain America where the research was horrible (honestly it was the worst researched episode Death Battle has ever had and the match seemed biased because of it). Even Goku vs Superman is questionable. SS4 blots out the sun preventing him from getting new light and SS4 produces red light that would weaken Superman down to Human level while he fought Goku. Or Goku can use kaoken at any transformation and produce even more red light. My point is who cares, its a show get over it. Stop freaking out lol. Finally the volunteer research team do great work but they are not the end all be all for information. I'm sure they took their research under consideration. Peace out.

  • 2xDouble FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    While I'm here, a few ideas for other Death Battles:

    Alex Louis Armstrong (Fullmetal Alchemist) vs Sabin Rene Figaro (Final Fantasy)
    Roshi (DragonBall) vs Yoda (Star Wars)

    Shining/Burning Gundam (G Gundam) vs Voltron (Voltron)

    Yugi Muto (Yu Gi Oh!) vs Sakura (Cardcaptors)

    Diablo (Diablo) vs Pyron (Darkstalkers)

    Rytlock Brimstone (Guild Wars) vs Grommash Hellscream (Warcraft)

    Strahd von Zerovich (DnD) vs Sorin Markov (M:tG)

  • Longshanks FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I WAS LITERALLY JUST THINKING THE OTHER DAY THIS WOULD MAKE A GREAT DEATH BATTLE!

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 year ago

    Damn the comments section looks like something you would see on YouTube. I'm just glad the character ive actually played won.

    • CandidCamzy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Gentleman Adventurer

      1 year ago

      My sentiments, exactly. At first, with Sponsors like you and me, all seemed calm and fair. Then, as soon as it opened to everybody else...BOOM!

  • Kirbykid

    1 year ago

    Good episode, insanely good animation, and while I disagree with the verdict, overall it was good.


    But you guys really should listen to your research team more.

    • ArotTheKarot FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      There's no real point in them having a research team if they're going to ignore it. And most of the time it seems like they're putting more passion and effort into their research than the entire SA crew combined. To have them do all this work and shove it back in their faces is just plain wrong

    • Grand-Blazer

      1 year ago

      Yeah I don't like to say it, but I really agree. You guys aren't the only ones hearing about their research, we know what they said too. And I get you guys have your own stuff, but what's the point of having the team if you don't take into account what they bring up?


      Still a good episode, but even as someone who doesn't care for the research portion as much as orhers, I have to ask "What the heck guys?

    • Hazatroll FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      ODBFB does contribute to the research, like when they found out about Misty Knight which gave the victory to Raiden. However, they don't always look at the characters in a realistic way. They often disregard some cheat codes characters have such as healing factor or fail to notice some outliers; like Tifa's lifting(!) monsters. It didn't show up anywhere in the story and it wouldn't make sense even if it showed up. Otherwise, Tifa would one-shot Sephiroth and Bahamut Sin. While the majority of the team supported Tifa, AkumaTh approached the fight in a more realistic way and had the only verdict that actually makes sense; pointing out that Tifa has little to no role in FF7's story and what she can do on her own is shown in the movie. Likewise in Gaara vs Toph, MaxOfFewTrades was the only one who came up with the idea of killing Gaara under his sand armor.

      Their verdict about Dante vs Bayonetta was posted over 3 years ago. At that time, I opposed to their verdict due to Dante's healing factor. Do you know what UltraGuy said back then? "His regeneration isn't that great, a few thorns would be enough to kill him" I was like, WTF.

      Overall, ODBFB does a very good amount of research. However, DB team is the better team at analyzing the stuff and coming to a conclusion. Sorry to keep it long, it is just my usual writing.

    • ultraguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Eh can you guys really drop this. I'm starting to really not like this "us vs them" thing everyone has going on(it makes a really bad impression given the sites just merged and people are meeting for the first time).


      Also Haz that blog you're talking about was my own personal blog and I made it before the ODBFB even formed and it was the second blog I ever made period. I was starting out back then(that was actually nearly 4 years ago) and quoting it now is putting words in my mouth.The new blog we made was fairly new and had info added in from the ground up, with info from people other than just myself.


      Also please don't speak for the opinions of people you don't know. I widely supported some of akumas opinions and some of the game changing things they used for toph were based on Info I found. We also tended to talk a lot about different sides of subjects and individual members have opinions much more complex than what your post suggests. Heck a lot of time you don't hear the opinions of certain members simply because they didn't decide to make a vercit. The members above (kirby,grand and arot) know this and honestly have known us much longer and personally before the site merge, so I really wouldn't try to call them out on any opinions they have.


      Anyway to be honest this is really kinda irksome. On the old screwattack site I felt as if the ODBFB was given to much credit, with people constantly claiming "so and sos verdict was right" if they didn't like an outcome from DB. Personally I don't think we're prefect at all and I can see mistakes we've made in the past.


      Though realistically I don't think Death Battle is perfect either. I've been a part of screwattack for years and I've seen many a person make great, well thought out criticisms to the to the internal logic of some episodes or the facts behind them(ironically Gaara vs Toph being a prime example, which is easily the most controversial ep in the series). Some fights I'll even defend as completely right, Like Peach vs Zelda, Truthfully could have had more solid reasoning in the verdicts to better convince people of the outcome(for example I thought there was to much focus on the soccer ball thing, rather than pointing out Zelda have basically never fought anybody on her own in the main series and needed to get all her attacks from the non-canon smash).


      I don't think it's fair to discount stuff like that on the virtue of one group or person being "better" or "worse", or wrong on the principle of not running a show or whatever. Any logical person can propose a good argument given some time and work, it doesn't matter who they are.


      Additionally(and this statement isn't aimed towards anybody) to be fair the large majority of the people who disagreed with the ep in these comments were pretty tame and modest about it. Most of them still said they LOVED the fight animation and can't wait for the next ep. Not only that but some like Moh even tried to back up their beliefs with real arguments, and barely any did something as rude as to downvote others or simply write a criticism off as being a fanboy rant on the virtue of going against the video.


      That's a much more mature and proactive way of showing disagreement then you usually see on websites like youtube or.. well most vs sites actually. It's something that should be encouraged, rather than suppressed.




    • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

      1 year ago

      Kirbykid, this comment is so fucking true, as well as Grand-Blazer's and ArotTheKarot's. The main problem here is that there are too many people here who don't understand VS debating, and whilst there seems to be a lot of sensible people here, they just don't understand how this stuff works.


      I recommend this: http://lswan62.blogspot.ie/2016/03/swan-and-shades... to new people.
      And if you disagree with this after the link, disagree with ME, not the blog.

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Can you guys shut up and stop bashing DEATH BATTLE's analysis? This is as ridiculous as saying Deathstroke should have beaten Deadpool.


      Deadpool's unpredictability trumped Deathstroke's tactics. The carbonadium sword gave Deadpool the only method of killing, so it was only a matter of time. Game, set, match. Deadpool wins.

      Same thing here. Demons are demons, and accusing Bayonetta's demons of being better than Dante's demons (without evidence) simply isn't fair to Dante's fandom. And just like Deathstroke, Bayonetta really didn't have any way to put Dante down for good. The soul-rotting scythe MIGHT have done him in after enough blows, but technically that could be said about any of her weapons. After all, Dante's healing factor isn't limitless like Deadpool's. But it's still absolutely absurd.

      Dante's Quicksilver style is what gave this match to Dante. Bayonetta spams Witch Time like nobody's business in the games, so having it negated gave her a serious disadvantage. And given Dante's experience with killing demons, most of Bayonetta's summons couldn't have lasted long. Anyone who disagrees with that will have to explain how Madama Butterfly could defeat Vergil and/or Mundus on her own. That left only her weapons, and Pandora alone (the 666 weapon briefcase) outclasses all of her weapons easily. Even her absurd reaction time is trumped by the raindrop-obliteration feat.

      I'm with Wizard on this one: "It was only a matter of time before Bayonetta suffered the fatal blow."

    • B05SxBrennan

      3 months ago

      «Demons are demons, and accusing Bayonetta's demons of being better than Dante's demons (without evidence) simply isn't fair to Dante's fandom.»


      A giant endowed with six fearsome arms capable of pulverizing mountains, those unfortunate enough to fall underfoot of the demon are subject to days-long violent earthquakes.

      Lacking knowledge, but brimming with brutality, it is said that even the most powerful of conjurers should take heed of the danger this beast presents.

      That's the The Book of Infernal Demons' description for Hekatoncheir. There is no DMC demon that has that kind of destructive output.


      «And just like Deathstroke, Bayonetta really didn't have any way to put Dante down for good. The soul-rotting scythe MIGHT have done him in after enough blows, but technically that could be said about any of her weapons. After all, Dante's healing factor isn't limitless like Deadpool's. But it's still absolutely absurd.»


      We see in all of Vergil's boss battles that Sparda's sons can have their healing factor overtaxed. Also, Bayonetta has blades large enough (Diomedes' horn, Wicked Blades) to completely separate one half of Dante's body from the other, which is something he has not shown to be able to heal from. Dante has also shown vulnerability to poison, so Kafka is also an option.


      «Dante's Quicksilver style is what gave this match to Dante. Bayonetta spams Witch Time like nobody's business in the games, so having it negated gave her a serious disadvantage.»


      But her greatest speed feats are faster than Dante's, and they're done without Witch Time. Witch Time can also stack.


      «And given Dante's experience with killing demons, most of Bayonetta's summons couldn't have lasted long. Anyone who disagrees with that will have to explain how Madama Butterfly could defeat Vergil and/or Mundus on her own.» 


      Probably by overwhelming them with her superior strength and speed. Btw, Dante did not defeat Mundus on his own.


      «That left only her weapons, and Pandora alone (the 666 weapon briefcase) outclasses all of her weapons easily.»


      Dante has the larger arsenal, but Bayonetta's is far more diverse. We don't know what 659 of Pandora's forms do, they could useless or inaccessibly for all we know. The seven forms of Pandora that are available are countered by Rodin (the weapon, not the character) and the Umbran Armor.


      «Even her absurd reaction time is trumped by the raindrop-obliteration feat.»


      Even if we use the retconned raindrop scene, it's way under Bayonetta's top speed. Bayonetta is capable of dodging punches from Loptr. Loptr's arms can fly into space and grab a meteor that's far enough away that it hasn't been pulled in by earths gravity, all in about two seconds.



  • LiamRWBYLax FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    DBx for anyone wondering is the new One Minute Melee since the original creators decided to leave screw attack and continue the series on their own.

    • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

      1 year ago

      Nah. They had a falling out, OMM is now on the Youtube channel "Hyun's Dojo" for anyone who wants to see it, they just put up a new episode today and it was great!

  • LiamRWBYLax FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Sasuke vs Anyone, (he will win any fight, my guarantee)

    • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

      1 year ago

      except when fighting naruto

    • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Ben has stated that he actively dislikes Sasuke. He can't do any unbiased research on him.

    • Hive0

      1 year ago

      Well, you heard him. LiamRWBYLax guarantees it. No point in debating any more. Let's go home everyone.

  • ryan297

    1 year ago

    First off, I would like to say this episode is excellently created. I loved the attention to detail. However, Bayonetta is far more powerful than you guys have stated. 1. Her left eye ability has protected her for over 500 years of constant war and rigorous fights. Her experience alone and the hidden training should have been a factor. 2. Before becoming a witch the deadly training had to take place in order for her to become as strong as she was. 3. Her torture attack should have killed Dante because it is a dark magic infused attack that should have honestly hurt his soul in some way. 4. Her hairsuit is not made of normal hair. Even in her description, her hairsuit is so powerful that it "repels all attacks". The main reason witches died in the past was because of their lack of experience, over fatigued, and no hairsuit. Most of them simply wore umbran garments very similar to what Bayonetta wore. 5. Does Dante not have a soul? Because he was stabbed with a soul-sapping sword that should have killed him on contact. I know that he gets stabbed all of the time(for reasons I DO NOT understand because he is so fast), but this sword should have killed him right to the core to be honest. 6. She isn't 7'7", her legs may be long, but her head and her torso are smaller than average. Shoot, she is even shorter or about the same height as most of the civilians and NPCs in her game, and Anarchy Reigns. I just wanted to throw that in there. But all in all. Do not confuse this for a rant Because I absolutely loved this episode. But I feel that it was inconsistent with the data analysis. But yet again I am a complete Bayonetta nerd and I do not know much about Dante.

    • Teshiku FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      He doesn't have much of a soul, part of his demonic heritage. Also, he tends to get impaled or stabbed a lot mostly because he get distracted or doesn't care to dodge because of his healing factor keeping him alive through most of his damage.

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Let me deconstruct your arguments one-by-one, Ryan.

      1.) Why should fighting experience be a factor? I seriously doubt Bayonetta has fought anyone on Dante's level. The guy is in a league all his own.

      2.) Again, so? Dante probably had to train before he could become a devil-hunter, too.

      3.) Have you forgotten that Dante is half-demon? Dark magic probably affects him less than any other type of magic.

      4.) Just because Bayonetta's hair-suit repels attacks doesn't mean it could have protected her from Dante to a relevant extent. If anything, Dante's sword (if not Rebellion, then definitely Yamato) would slice through it.

      5.) Against any normal human, you would be absolutely right. And I'm pretty sure Bayonetta's soul-sapping weapons were a lot more painful than her others. BUT, that wasn't enough to give Bayonetta the win. It probably brought her closer, but not close enough.


      In a nutshell...

      I.) Bayonetta's Witch Time is a huge crutch. Dante's Quicksilver did the same thing, and thus cancelled it out. Without it, she took a lot more punishment than she did in the games. Frankly, time-manipulation is one of the most OP abilities out there.

      II.) Bayonetta's absurd reaction time is trumped by Dante's raindrop-obliteration feat... plus his abilities and styles.

      III.) Dante's weapons at least matched Bayonetta's... without Pandora (the 666 weapon briefcase). With Pandora, Dante's arsenal blew Bayonetta's out of the water.

      IV.) There is no evidence to suggest Bayonetta's demons are in any way superior to Dante's. So he had no problem beating demons like Gomorrah and Madama Butterfly.

      V.) Without Witch Time (See No. I), Bayonetta couldn't dish out enough punishment to kill Dante first. This is the best summation of what gave Dante the win. If Bayonetta had a way to effectively outmaneuver Dante (see No. I & II for why she can't), I concede she would've had this in the money. But... she didn't. So it was only a matter of time before Dante did her in.

  • MetaScourge

    1 year ago

    Discord vs Bill Cipher

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      8 months ago

      Cartoon Fight Club did this. Bill won because Weirdmageddon breaks logic.

  • JTH11111

    1 year ago

    Saw the fight was animated at 60 fps.


    And damn, it looks beatiful!

  • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

    1 year ago

    At least next time.... IT'S SHOWTIME!

  • Kyyss FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I thought one of the rules of Death Battle was that ou couldn't have outside help? But Trish and Jeanne clearly assisted Dante and Bayonetta. I mean, in the end it didn't really matter, but it irks me

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      Outside help is allowed if both sides get it. Like in Snake vs Fisher

    • LordAbyssion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Riverman

      1 year ago

      Well Jeanne and Trish were there pretty much just as a tie-in to their new show DBX. Remember, the outcome is determined by the research, not by the actual fight animation. The fight itself is just for entertainment. They could have any outside character show up in the fight and it still would've been irrelevant to the outcome.

    • Hazatroll FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Adding what LordAbyssion said, the scenario of the fight is what would happen realistically if the two characters were to end up in a fight. It was quite normal that Trish and Jeanne joined the fight. And c'mon, it made it a lot more entertaining. :D Though, the research and verdict part of the fight is unaffected by other combatants.

  • jeremiahwehler

    1 year ago

    As a former Sega employee, I do not approve of this outcome. :)

    • LordAbyssion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Riverman

      1 year ago

      JEREMIAH!

  • murtiC74

    1 year ago

    WoW Torrian , Great Moves , Keep it up , Proud of you.

  • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

    1 year ago

    This comment section rn:



    Any comment that disagrees regardless of backing up statements or not? Negrepped to hell with no counter debating.


    Fucking lolworthy.

  • Comic-Platypus

    1 year ago

    Great fight,

  • D180223

    1 year ago

    Looks like Dante was the one to fill Bayonetta's dark soul with LIGHHHHHHHHT

    • PokeSEGA64

      1 year ago

      *points finger* I understood that reference.

  • TheMohZone Heatran on a Balloon!

    1 year ago

    You know its funny?

    You say Dante is faster giving a feat that comes out to ~Mach 20 but i seem to recall the satellite feat you guys brought up so much to come tied to a speed feat that comes out to, at the lowest end, 9 times faster than that

    Which i found in your research teams notes

    I also know that Quicksilver > WItchtime has very little backing in story, with only WitchTime shown to be spamable, stackable and nigh indefinite

    Also in the notes

    And Durability wise, while Dante heals, its not Deadpool level like you guys made it out to be, and as a whole Bayonetta has just flat out survived more

    also, in your research teams notes.

    You guys know by now, i know you do, there are places like NarutoForums, VS Wiki, Comicvine, Factpile and more that have calculations that place these two far higher than you did, but all of them, even your research team, came to the same conclusion. Dante has no business being near Bayonetta, lest he get splattered before he can blink. And having watched the episode and seeing it so easily refutable, by the stuff presented in episode and found by your own researchers you had SUCH pride in when they found Antarctic Vibranium for you...

    Did you guys even listen to them? To ANYONE?

    That said, while this episode is up there with some of the more wrong episodes you guys have done, that doesn't mean its bad. Torrians animation here is some of the best he's ever done, possibly the best, possibly the best the show has ever had. The banter and choreography was top notch, soundtrack was amazing, and i was NOT expecting Trish and Jeanne to come in. Just like you say on twitter huh Torrian? There is no outside help rule. the fight REALLY picked up when they broke in. and the kill shot was perfect. Pokemon v Digimon hit me too much in the feels, and the OST showed thats what you are going for, but this was hust the right style of over the top. I fucking love it, more!

    Wiz and Boomstick weren't at their best this time out tho. Minus the monkey joke, which worked better in the preview, nothing really sticks out. and the DBX Plug felt forced as all hell.

    Ben and Chad have always said Death Battle is entertainment before anything else, and this episode is a perfect example of that. Its one of the more easy episodes to refute in terms of analysis but the ride is so fun, i find myself not caring.

    And to all you RT Regulars who are going through the comments downvoting people for criticizing the analysis, please stop. Criticism helps the show grow, and its not exactly unfounded fanboy moaning this time. Plenty of g1s were routing for Dante, myself included, because he's a more fun, likeable character, but that doesn't make the result any less questionable, and criticizing it can only help the show grow. Besides, again, i've only used stuff provided to DB by their own research team, for those of you who don't believe me Here's the ODBFBs new page, and the blog, (for those of you who don't know, they are the research team) and both Dante and Bayonetta have alot more impressive calculations floating around on the web theres no point in bringing up, because theres always going to be that one kid who thinks since Death Battle didn't bring it up, its wrong.

    I'm really sorry DB team if this feels ranty, as it has turned out that way, i guess i just wanted to speak my piece. Alot of the ODBFB i'm friends with and it kinda feels like they were ignored or their notes cherry picked, and that doesn't sit right by me. still despite everything the episode is a solid 8/10 due to animation alone. I stopped caring too much if a DB is right from a debate standpoint long ago, and just care if the fight is entertaining and an accurate representation of the characteristics of the combatants, moreso than accurate stats, and this one delivered 110%

    So i guess the TL;DR is...keep up the good work? I dunno, All Hail the Koopa King.

    • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

      1 year ago

      I believe the correct term in a situation like this is.... Slayer_Instant_Kill_622x320.jpg?resize=6

    • Kyouma95

      1 year ago

      Completely agree. Especially the down voting..

    • g1VergilDante100

      1 year ago

      This is actually pretty accurate for this, I must admit this episode did not have the same feel as others and they had multiple months to work on this and all that nonsense, I know Torrian does a wonderful job with the animation styles he puts forward, I don't blame him for this episode's lack of quality I just am not impressed considering this is a season premiere episode there could have been a bit more spit and polish to improve the research behind the fight as per usual, decent fight but there was literally no explanation except a five second plot device mention to tie the fight together.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      Vs Battles wiki uses power scaling. They're not legit

    • LousyTactician FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      @Gr81 Uh DEATH BATTLE has used power-scaling too. Multiple times.

    • LordAbyssion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Riverman

      1 year ago

      You may say that this fight is flawed and the result is inaccurate... but after reading the article you linked, I can say that the research article itself is quite flawed.


      I feel like I have to point out that I'm really neutral when it comes to these death battles, or I'll be called out for being a fan boy or whatever. I like both characters, I've played both Bayo games over 100h each, and total playtime for the DMC games combined is over 200h as well. So I think I can say that I'm pretty familiar with both characters. However, regardless of which character wins, the earth will continue to orbit around the sun. Nothing's different, nothing's changed. It's just a video on the internet, don't care about the outcome. The animation was great though.


      Now that that's out of the way, the the research article in question has it's flaws and jumps to a lot of conclusions. Like how they're ASSUMING that Dante's regenerative abilities could only shrug off Bayonetta's minor attacks, and how "it wouldn't save him from Bayonetta's summons". Funny how Dante fights and defeats similar demons in every game he's in without breaking a sweat.

      Then they claim that Dante's quicksilver is far inferior to witch time without any evidence to back this up. Quicksilver has actually been shown to be able to slow time completely, while witch time only slows down time.

      Also how they list Bayonetta's durability fears to far outclass Dante's by saying she "took quite a beating form Balder", followed by linking to a video where she takes no beating at all.

      Also also, regarding the satellite speed feat you mentioned, in the cutscene where she's attacked by a satellite, the satellite is first being shown in space, moving slowly towards the earth, then the camera cuts to Bayonetta and the satellite is right above her. The article states that the satellite must've traveled at several thousand mach to reach Bayonetta in 5 seconds (time taken from time elapsed in the cutscene), completely disregarding the fact that the camera actually cuts like that and the satellite actually moves INSTANTLY from outer space to just above Bayonetta. Meaning that either a) the satellite was in fact teleported there, or b) the time span for the satellite to get there was more than 5 seconds and this feat shouldn't be used to demonstrate Bayo's agility (like I said, the camera cuts from showing the satellite in space, to showing it above Bayonetta).


      There are more flaws and inconsistencies in the article, but I don't really care enough to point out all of them. Not trying to defend to outcome or attack the research guys. Just pointing stuff out.


      Cheers.

    • ultraguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      @Lord Actually that's not what we meant. What we were getting at was that Dante had only survived things like impalement and his ability to grow back limbs or survive with his head completely incinerated/squashed wasn't really backed up by anything. Likewise that we thought it would be within Bayo's ability to do something like that.


      Also QuickTime doesn't completely stop time, and really there's little context to go on for what it's limits are. In gameplay it only lasts a few seconds, and the only cutscene where its used Dante only uses it for a few seconds. You also don't really have a lot of chances to time the extent of the slowdown, which honestly isn't that extreme when you can.


      In comparison it was easy to find examples of Bayo using witch time for several minutes and even in game you can have a several minute long boss battle within the span of real world seconds(a feet even mentioned in the video). We thought an argument could be made that the overall slowdown of witch time was better than witch time and that it was a bit more proven as a battle option.


      That Balder link also doesn't go directly to the fight. There's a time code there for where you need to skip to in the video. Likewise the fight lasts several minutes


      Finally skip backward 1 or 2 seconds in the statlight link. BALDER was the one who pulled it down out of orbit(telekenetically I suppose), to use as a projectile, it wasn't teleported.


      and you can't just make general statements like "the infernal demons are just like the demons Dante deals with all the time". You actually need to take the time to compare the stats and abilities of each infernal demon and explain on a case by case basis why they would be below what Dante has normally dealt with. Comparisons, especially across fictional media aren't always that simple.


      of course that being said I don't entirely disagree with everything they said in this video. I'm also fine if they think Dante should win, even if I personally don't agree with it(I can even see where their point of view is coming from on some angles, as TECHNICALLY they are right that Bayo has never healed from what would normally be considered a mortal wound for a human). Individual ODBFB members(and to be honest some times most of the team) have disagreed with fights in the past, but ultimately we still love the show and like the show-runners, so we're not going to whine on endlessly about a ending we don't like.


      @Moh


      I honored that you want stick up for us, and I LOVE that fact you're actually giving well thought out constructive criticism while still giving an overall positive opinion on the show(to be honest it seems like everyone either hates/ridicules Death battle forever because ONE episode or in this thread see things maybe a bit to ideally). Though personally you're giving us a bit to much credit. We're basically volunteers who give them some extra info on the side for fun(they still do a lot of stuff on their own). Not only that but to be fair our actual blogs tend to have more elaborated info and verdicts very close to posting due to community debates in the forums.


    • LordAbyssion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Riverman

      1 year ago

      @ultraguy


      Yes, you are right that during gameplay you can only use the quicksilver ability for brief periods of time. That's because it depletes your devil trigger gauge, a gameplay mechanic that prevents you from overusing the ability. Unfortunately there's not much to go on in the one cutscene where Dante uses quicksilver, and it is unclear whether the time ran out at the end of the cutscene, or if Dante just disabled it. So it really is impossible to say how long he could ACTUALLY maintain it. This is similar to how witch time only lasts for a few seconds in actual gameplay because of the game's mechanics, but during cutscenes Bayonetta can use it more freely.


      I did check all the time stamps for all the links. The link (and the time) provided in the durability feat section still only shows Bayonetta's infernal demons getting torn apart, while the only "beating" Bayonetta receives is falling onto some falling debris. I am aware that Bayonetta has taken a beating or two before, I was just pointing out that that wasn't a very good example of one.


      Yes, I am aware that it was Balder who pulled down the satellite. That still doesn't change that during the cutscene the satellite is first shown in space, then it cuts to not being in space. So the 5 second feat isn't quite as impressive as it's made out to be. Furthermore, in that same cutscene, when Balder pulls down the satellite, as soon as it starts moving towards earth it catches on fire, suggesting that it's already making atmospheric entry at that point. That would put the satellite much closer to earth than the minimum of 200 miles stated in the article.


      And yes, you are right. You can't make a general assumption that the demons Dante have fought are stronger or weaker than Bayonetta's summons. That wasn't my point. But comparing and debating demons from the two franchises wasn't the point of this post, so that'll have to wait for another time (although I do think that, placed in the DMC universe, Dante could probably take on the infernal demons.... and they would make for some pretty sweet boss fights.)


      Actually, WAY before this fight was even announced, I concluded that Bayonetta should win. Even if all else fails, the fact that she fights in purgatorio would leave Dante unable to even interact with her, or even see her. But I guess that's one fact that would have to be completely overlooked for this fight to even take place. The article does say that yamato could POSSIBLY break down the walls between the human realm and purgatorio, but again, that's purely speculation. This is similar to how, say, Bleach characters would probably be invisible to any characters from outside the Bleach universe, so interaction would be impossible. I guess that's also one fact that would have to be overlooked if/when a shinigami from Bleach enters DeathBattle.

    • ultraguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Actually even in gameplay several fights take place using witch time the entire time(in addition to her having had maintained it for several minutes from a story/cut-scene perspective on occasion). I'd also call it unrealistic to believe that satalight had real lasp in fall time once it was pulled down, given the nature of the fight at hand(if it took say a minute or so, it would be pretty unrealistic for Bayo to be in the same place or to have not attacked balder during the lasp). The low end of that feat also would have been enough and truthfully I'd want to hard check the possible science of anything further.


      But I digress I mostly just responded because I thought you were misinterpreting what we were saying in that blog. If you want to debate I'd rather do it on screwattack forums.

    • LordAbyssion FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Riverman

      1 year ago

      Yes, I am aware that most bosses, for example, are fought in witch time. Even the Balder fight in Bayo 1 is fought in witch time. And to be fair, that would make the satellite thing move much, much faster. At least in real world time/speed. Probably close to ludicrous speed. The point was that the whole 5 second thing takes a lot of liberties in interpreting the cut scene. Probably didn't take a minute, but also probably didn't take 5 seconds.


      But like I said in my first post, I don't even care about any of this. I have nothing to gain from writing this stuff. I just felt like pointing a few things out because a lot of people are attacking ScrewAttack for their 'faulty' research without doing any research of their own or checking whatever 'facts' they happened to find on the internet.

    • ultraguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Debatable honestly. But I'd rather not talk about it here.

      Anyway Trust me. I know most of these people personally. They've followed death Battle for years and we literally have threads in our own forums that go on for 100s of pages with debates on outcomes. A lot of people from RT are jumping to conclusions because they don't know them yet and none of them have been really been "attacking" the ep in an overtly negative way.


      Really they deserve a bit more credit than what some people in these comments are giving them(many of them put more thought into match-ups than people realize, they didn't NOT do there research or familiarize themselves with characters before posting like people are assuming. I say this because I actually talk to these guys on a regular basis).

    • metabro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      What a wind bag

  • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

    1 year ago

    Incredible fight animation wise. Glad my preferred character won, though there are many ways Bayonetta should have won. Quite possibly Torrian's best work so far.

  • mattyou FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Kingdom Hearts freak

    1 year ago

    great stuff guys used to watch these a lot see i got a bunch to catch up on .

  • Crzy_Knight FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    I love this ep! Still hope they make more db's with anime characters.

  • Icipall

    1 year ago

    Whoa, that was unexpected! What an awesome fight.

  • DestinedFire FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Mogar's Minions

    1 year ago

    From start to finish this battle was BEAUTIFUL. I loved every second of it and so glad my pick won!!! Great way to start the season guys! Keep up the great work!!

  • pocket417

    1 year ago

    Seeing as how Dante has a sword that can cut through dimensions, the outcome is not the least but shocking. It's not at all surprising that Bayonetta lost, as she is only just a human after all. Fanboys, do YOUR research.

    • pocket417

      1 year ago

      Also, this is the result of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object.

    • Wynaro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold The First

      1 year ago

      Result of an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object, 1 the two phasing through eachother as if not accepting eachothers realities. Or 2 the end of existence. This is neither of those. The prior is the more likely feat, of course.

  • Xivio FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    • SolidZone

      1 year ago

      lol cry some more, fanboy.

    • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

      1 year ago

      @SolidZone Ever heard of a sore winner? You're being one. Grow up.

    • SolidZone

      1 year ago

      @ShadMorgen Ever heard of a sore loser? Because that's what this guy is. He even deleted his own comment. How sad, even more sad that you are defending this loser.

    • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

      1 year ago

      @SolidZone Ow. The edge. There is nothing wrong with being happy with Dante winning, I myself wanted him to because DMC games are way fucking better.


      However. You're being a dickhead to people in the comments section, calling people fantards, whilst dickriding DB's faulty analysis. It's laughable at best.


      Grow. Up.

  • ThorGundersen1058 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    this... this is the most unforgivably incorrect verdict so far, i am VERY disappointed with this season premiere, come on Death battle you are better this, it pains me to see you get everything so wrong, Please listen to your research team in the future

    • SolidZone

      1 year ago

      It pains me to see how dumb you look right now. Please watch the video in more detail and you'll see why, Bayonetta fanboy. Disregard what the research team thinks as they're biased.


      Edit: Keep rating this post lame, Bayonetta fanboys. The more you keep feeding me, the more dumber YOU get everyday.

    • ShadMorgen Miracle Man

      1 year ago

      @SolidZone You're dickriding DB without doing any research on your own, clearly. The research team are NOT biased, they simply present feats and stats, etc. That's why they are on the research team.


      Stop insulting people who disagree whilst being unable to form your own opinion.

    • SolidZone

      1 year ago

      @ShadMorgen What I'm saying is don't let some "research team" cloud your judgment and decide the verdict yourself. Who cares what they think? I can choose my own opinions thank you very much. Unless you and the fanboy prefer dickriding this so-called "research team."

    • ThorGundersen1058 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      @SolidZone, cause holding the opinion of two random dudes from Texas over every serious VS debater that exists simply because they happened to animate it is clearly forming your own opinion. Ben and Chad are fallible humans, there is nothing wrong with that, they get it right roughly 75% of the time which is more than most VS shows. They are just very wrong here

  • Mudkip97

    1 year ago

    Here are some suggestions:

    -Salamander aka: Natsu Dragneel (Fairy Tail) vs Fire Fist aka: Portgas D Ace (One Piece)

    -Dumbledore (Harry Potter) vs Gandalf (Lord of the Ring)

    -Pegasus Seiya (Saint Seiya) vs Pit (Kid Icarus)

  • Knifle91

    1 year ago

    ....Now That was a good way to start a season! If I may give an idea: Starfire vs Lum Invader.

  • comicking428

    1 year ago

    What's the music for the fight? I know there's Find You from Anarchy, Aesir from Bayo 2, and Lucifer in the ending. I know that first part's from some DMC game...

  • Adamsmasher

    1 year ago

    Some ideas here:

    The Joker (DC) vs. Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal)
    Nathan Drake (Uncharted) vs. Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)

    Ruby (RWBY) vs. Marluxia (Kingdom Hearts): Could see this promoting the full version of RWBY Grimm Eclipse and Kingdom Hearts 2.8.

    Maka and Soul (Soul Eater) vs. Yoh and Amidamaru (Shaman King)
    Johto Pokemon Starter Battle Royale