Tracer VS Scout (Overwatch VS Team Fortress 2)

DEATH BATTLE!: Tracer VS Scout (Overwatch VS Team Fortress 2)

There’s a new scout in town, and the old cream of the crop has some competition! Can the Scout’s experience and wacky tactics take down the high-speed finesse of Tracer? Two will enter, but only one will live.


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Wiz/Showrunner: Ben Singer - https://twitter.com/ScrewAttackBen

Boomstick: Chad James - https://twitter.com/ScrewAttackChad

Writer/Project Lead: Nick Cramer - https://twitter.com/THENervousNick

Animator: Torrian Crawford - https://twitter.com/AnimatedTorrii

Editor:Gerardo Mejia – https://twitter.com/HybridRain

Voice of Tracer:Elsie Lovelock - https://twitter.com/sweetpoffin

Voice of Scout:Alexander Gross - https://twitter.com/Octopimp

Casting & Voice Direction: Marissa Lenti - https://twitter.com/LentiSoup

Battle Announcer: Christopher Guerrero - https://twitter.com/ChrisGuerreroVA

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Comments (389)

  • icestar1186

    10 months ago

    You know, it's a shame they don't really use characters multiple times. I'd really want to see how Tracer would do against Ekko from League of Legends. (My prediction: Tracer still wins. They're evenly matched in most cases, but Ekko is largely a melee fighter while Tracer has ranged weapons).

  • Gamer3427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold taC terceS

    11 months ago

    After now actually playing Overwatch some, coming back to this video, I really have to disagree with the results on the simple basis that they make it seem close as though Tracer is nearly impossible to hit and can simply undo any damage done if she is hit. While she is fairly difficult to hit, she's not entirely impossible to do so by even normal means, and the main method of hitting her when she is teleporting around is with weapons with wide ranges such as shotguns, which happens to be the Scout's primary weapon. Furthermore, she has far more limited use of her abilities than they seem to give her credit for, only being able to do a few teleports and rewind her personal timeline by a very small amount. Add to this the fact that she's actually not very durable at all, with it taking very little damage to kill her flat out, and with her being unable to rewind if she's dead. Don't get me wrong, her abilities do make her very formidable, but she would have met her absolute worst match against a shotgun wielding opponent like the Scout who can also take far more hits and deal extremely heavy damage in the process. Even in the hands of very skilled players, (and trust me, she can be a pain when in those hands), she just doesn't have the survivability to withstand a prolonged fight against a single opponent, without resorting to hit and run tactics while hiding in the meantime. And even if she does use purely hit and run, all it would take is one good hit to take her out due to her low durability.....

    • comicking428

      10 months ago

      "After playing some Overwatch..."

      and the problem with your argument starts there. See the Tracer in the Overwatch trailers that isn't as limited in durability and blinks? That's the Tracer used in the video, the canon one.

    • Gamer3427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold taC terceS

      10 months ago

      @comicking428 But that's also something that makes me disagree with it, since before playing Overwatch, I didn't care enough to even watch those videos. Even in those videos she's pretty clearly more vulnerable and at risk than what they imply in this Death Battle. In fact, one could argue more so, since she's pretty easily nearly put out of commission from every hit she takes in the videos, including collapsing after just barely coming into contact with Widowmaker's poison, when in the game she is arguably more durable. Meanwhile, the Scout puts out far higher damage output and yet she would supposedly be able to survive getting hit from him and be able to recover......

    • comicking428

      10 months ago

      Except that kick that Tracer took from Widowmaker doesn't look so weak when you consider that Widowmaker tanked a punch from the Doomfist and casually dives through Tracer's explosion to aim for the senator. The trailers expand Tracer's ability to Blink and rewind time than it is in the game, as she's limited to doing it every 3 seconds in the game and can rewind less than a second, whereas in the trailers, she blitzes multiple staircases with multiple blinks in less than a second, and went back a whole 5 seconds after Widowmaker's poison. 


      Your argument sounds like you're taking the lowest points of Tracer. You limit her blink and time abilities to the game rather than the trailers, and when we focus on the trailers, you focus on her being weaker than she is in the game. Even if we were to add to gameplay power-scaling, Tracer's weapons can harm Junkrat, who's tanked explosions that could level skyscrapers, whereas Scout at best can harm small-building level opponents.


      They're relatively close in strength and durability, so it's Tracer's speed and time-manipulation that secure her the win.

  • DBZ_HATER_BROADCASTER

    1 year ago

    There's Overwatch porn on Pornhub.

  • tutor71 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Motoko Kusanagi VS Adam Jensen

    Cat Woman VS Black Widow

    Martian Manhunter VS Vision

    Erza Scarlet VS Gilgamesh

    Ruby VS Maka

    Lara Croft VS Nathan Drake

  • animefan220 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Jesse McCree (Overwatch) vs Red Harlow (Red Dead Revolver) vs John Marston (Red Dead Redemption) 3 way cowboy standoff

    • Mitchitivity

      1 year ago

      The Good, The Bad and the Ugly... very well done sir very well done.

  • Fredneck FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    They should totally do one for Aragog vs Shelob

  • Ekiadox

    1 year ago

    Saitama (One Punch Man) vs Whis (Dragon Ball franchise)
    Lara Croft (Tomb Raider series) vs Rushuna Tendou (Grenadier: Hohoemi no Senshi)Sauron vs Voldemort
    Black Widow (Marvel) vs James Bond
    Ted (Ted movies) vs Winnie the Pooh
    Azrael (DC) vs Moonknight (Marvel)
    Genos (One Punch Man) vs Generator Rex
    Darth Sidious vs Voldemort
    Darkseid (DC) vs Thanos (Marvel)
    Anti-Monitor (DC) vs Galactus (Marvel)
    Starfire (DC) vs Captain Marvel AKA Carol Danvers (Marvel)
    Plastic Man (DC) vs Mister Fantastic (Marvel)
    Firestorm (DC) vs Human Torch (Marvel)
    Flash (DC) vs Quicksilver (Marvel)
    Zatanna (DC) vs Scarlet Witch (Marvel)
    Circe (DC) vs Enchantress (Marvel)
    Wall-E vs R2-D2
    Batman Beyond vs Spider-Man 2099
    Han Solo vs Lucky Luke
    Mighty Morphin Power Rangers vs Inner Senshi (Saior Moon)
    Goofy vs Jar Jar Binks
    Kao the Kangaroo vs Rayman
    Scooby Doo vs Pluto
    Yato (Noragami series) vs Yoh Asakura (Shaman King)
    Daenerys Targaryen (Game of Thrones) vs Hiccup (How to train your dragon)
    Four main CPUs Battle Royale (Hyperdimension Neptunia franchise)
    Batgirl (DC) vs Spider-Woman AKA Jessica Drew (Marvel) 
    Team RWBY Battle Royale (RWBY)

    • capitanofelip

      1 year ago

      Lara Croft vs Nathan Drake

      James Bond vs Venom Snake

  • Mitchitivity

    1 year ago

    Kazuya Mishima (Tekken) Vs. Kano (Mortal Kombat)

  • Mitchitivity

    1 year ago

    Balrog (Street Fighter) Vs. Steve Fox (Tekken)



  • Mr_LRB

    1 year ago

    Wait, so the TF2 intelligence is actually the Pulp Fiction briefcase? 

  • italu

    1 year ago

    Please do Supergirl vs. Captain Marvel!

  • Ustpatrick FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    who is Ken fighting does anyone know yet

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      Terry Bogard

    • Ustpatrick FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Well I'm heading back to my flippity floppity floo

  • TheLastNobody FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Gehrman, The First Hunter vs Qrow or Ruby? That would be a really good one.

  • DrKaber FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Pun Accounted For

    1 year ago

    I think it would be cool to see Ghost Rider vs. Mr. Grimm

  • Mastoden92

    1 year ago

    Is it possible that they can do another army battle like they did for Dr. Robotnik vs. Dr. Wiley or will it be too much on the animators and/or research team to do in a limited time based on their show scheduling?

    If they are able to do another army battle Imperial Guard (Cadia regiment since they are most well known regiment in the 40k universe) vs. Covenant would seem interesting. Most weapons are similar, both have plasma weapons (though more likely Guardsmen dying from their own plasma guns because Guardsmen shooting and cardboard armor) and have sometime of shield/refactor field for their commanders. Could have Lord Castellan Creed lead the Imperial Guard and Arbiter lead the Covenant.

  • rob_cpmetis

    1 year ago

    So, as I expected... one has an ult, the other doesn't, so the one with the ult wins.

  • hulker

    1 year ago

    El Diablo (aka Chato Santana) (DC) vs Ghost Rider (aka Robbie Reyes) (Marvel)

  • hulker

    1 year ago

    Sophitia (Soul Calibur) vs Sif (Marvel)


    Meruem (Hunter x Hunter) vs Cell (Dragon Ball)


    Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach) vs Inuyasha


    Dean Winchester (Supernatural) vs Nick Burkhardt (Grimm)


    Angela (Marvel) vs She-ra (Masters Of the Universe)


    Riddick vs Predator

  • parlbyE

    1 year ago

    I like Minnie Mouse vs. Amy Rose better then Ken masters.

  • Llexis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Ken Masters vs Mercury Black. battle of the kickers!

  • HiAndromon

    1 year ago

    I actually have to point out my problem with this, Tracers chrono-distortion device, if it gets damaged, like it should have been after it getting smacked with a home run swing, then it should have stopped working or at least been too damaged to pull off that last trick she did. Tracer has one big weakness and it glows and takes up most of her torso so it getting damaged should have been a very likely event to happen.


    EDIT-Reply to Hazatroll

    How would it be impossible? Have you ever played TF2?killing people who appear and disappear is par for the course! 

    Spy shows himself for a moment? Spam the Shotgun where he is immediately!

    Someone teleports in? Shoot them before they shoot you!


    Tracer would disappear in and out, he might have to wait a while for her to come back but she would and when she does he has her. Also when you say 'impossible' do you mean that she would disappear and he wouldn't be able to? That might count as a death anyway. And why would destroying her equipment be 'breaking the rules' it's a death battle!

    • Hazatroll

      1 year ago

      If that device was destroyed, it would be literally impossible for Scout to kill her. He has to kill her without destroying the device.

  • Gr81

    1 year ago

    To everyone who thinks Tracer would win because she's "better in every way," read on:


    *1.* Strength goes to Scout for killing an Ussuri Brown Bear (those things Zangief wrestles for sport) in one hit with a human femur, one of the strongest bones in the human body, and broke said femur in the process:


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf03_cold_day_in_hell/...


    He also killed Heavy in melee combat in Meet the Scout, and the Heavy is not only strong enough to wield a 330 pound minigun with total ease, but he can do this:


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf03_cold_day_in_hell/


    Tracer's greatest strength feat? Tackling Widowmaker in Alive....oooooh, intimidating...


    *2.* Speed goes to Scout as Hamaji Neo did a video on this:


    *3.* Durability definitely goes to Scout for tanking 3 rockets at once, getting launched into the side of RED Base, and falling at least 3 stories to the ground below, in Meet the Medic:


    He also survived a tug-of-war, and subsequent hanging, between a super powered Australian and the Heavy while being the "rope" (in TF2 lore, Australium gave Australians super strength, except Sniper for reasons disclosed in another issue):


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf04_blood_in_the_wate...


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf04_blood_in_the_wate...


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf04_blood_in_the_wate...


    Oh, btw, that woman holding the whip? Here she is fighting panthers barehanded:


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf02_unhappy_returns/#...


    And strangling a tiger:


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf02_unhappy_returns/#...


    To add more to Scout's survivability, he survived having his organs spilled out, and his heart stop, for longer than it should take to kill a man:


    http://www.teamfortress.com/tf03_cold_day_in_hell/...


    Nothing Tracer has done can compare to half the shit Scout's been through. Especially since her sniper bullet dodge comes into question as Tracer wasn't fast enough to avoid a wall.

    • DEATHBATTLESRULE1

      1 year ago

      Not to mention Scout has a canteen that can Ubercharge him three times and can use magic spells, one of which turns him invisible for a time, and has fought against waves of robots and magical monsters such as the Horseless Headless Horseman and Monoculus (who can teleport around the map). It all comes down to this: Tracer has infinite ammo and abilities that make her faster than most others, but they have their limits. Scout, on the other hand, has naturally better speed and an entire arsenal of weapons and attacks to overwhelm most opponents. So, Tracer shoots at Scout; he dodges, Scout would throw just about everything he has at Tracer; she dodges, Tracer's Chronal Accelerator reaches it's limit, giving Scout the opportunity he needs to stun her and kill her.

      I don't like to complain about these outcomes. I usually just accept the facts as they have been given to me because the researchers for these fight work really hard to make as accurate an assumption as possible and to make sure no stone is left unturned, but something went wrong here. It feels incomplete and rushed. I'm sorry to offend anyone because I really do love both games (I even prefer to main Tracer if I can), but I can't accept this and I encourage Ben to redo this battle at some point in the future, after enough thorough research is done. I'd be happy to lend a hand for that.

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      Don't leave the researchers out of being at fault here, they can get away with being just as biased because there doesn't seem to be any sort of check system to verify the research they use (though it is also the fault of whoever selects the research to be used). Would love to see their "research teams" and Ben go on rWho would win with the information they used in this one. Would be funny to see how long they would last before their arguments are torn to shreds.

    • Notbob22

      1 year ago

      The developers of overwatch have said that tracers theoretical top speed is 88 miles per hour. The heavy gets killed by rockets and takes much more damage than the scout. Tracer gets hit by zenyata's orbs which are titanium and dosent flinch. The bear was the same size as the scout so not full grown and was stabbed with an already broken femur. The heavy didn't fight back when the scout killed him he was reaching for a sandwich. Widowmaker has years of Martial arts training. Tracer can also trade blows with the strongest woman alive (Zaria) who can lift a 600 pound gun like nothing

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @perashim


      Yeah. in the latest episode of Discussing Death Battle, Moh Zone seemed incredibly biased towards Tracer


      @Notbob22


      Keyword: theoretical, as in not proven


      Tracer never dealt with Zenyatta nor Zarya outside of the game, so that argument is invalid


      Yes, the bear Scout killed wasn't full grown, but even baby Ussuris will fucking destroy you if given a reason. Plus, it wasn't stabbed at all, Scout hit it in the face and OHKd it


      Heavy somehow got the Scout in a grapple (probably got cocky, typical Scout), and Scout somehow escaped it. As strong as Heavy is, that is amazing


      And what does Widow's martial arts training have to do with this? Especially since Tracer is supposed to be much faster, right?

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      Figured I'd see someone try to use Hamaji's video as evidence. Did anyone forget that he primarily judged them from a gameplay perspective? Hamaji showed how fast they'd run in gameplay and limited Tracer to how Blink works in gameplay, whereas Death Battle portrayed how Tracer uses Blink in the trailers (which tend to be more accurate to the character's abilities.


      Hamaji showed that Tracer is faster when using her blinks, so being allowed to use her Blinks like in the trailers? It makes it nearly impossible for Scout to land some good hits in. Even if Scout had the edge in strength and durability, it wouldn't be enough when he could hardly hit her.

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @Notbob22


      Where has Tracer proven that "theoretical top speed" that she went 88 mph and where did the developers say that? The feats for Zarya and Zenyatta are in game only (and just so that we are clear, Scout's weapons, all of them, can smash robots and machinery of various sizes to pieces or at least damage them in canon). While the bear was not fully grown, it was still a Siberian Bear, which is going to be larger than a grizzly of the same age. Also, during that time Scout was suffering from frostbite when he HIT the bear with the old femur, he never stabbed the bear. In Meet the Scout, Scout was CLEARLY brawling against the Blue Heavy and winning even with Heavy fighting back. Also, I have to agree with Gr81, what exactly does Widow's hand to hand combat skills have to do with this?

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      If the brainwashed baguette can do it in Alive, then I'm fairly certain that the Bostonian runt can hit Tracer even if she has blink available.



    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @perashim

      Not the best defense. That's like saying Tracer would beat Scout because Scout's been beaten by Soldier, Spy, Heavy, Demoman, and Pyro in the trailers.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      Even IF Tracer is faster than Scout, DK vs Knuckles proved speed is nothing if your opponent is stronger and more durable

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      (Thank you for pointing that out, I do like debates like this without devolving into insults).


      . My point was to show that even with her multiple blinks, Tracer can still be hit by a less mobile person. Do I deny that it would be hard for Scout to hit Tracer while she still has her blink? No, but it wouldn't be nearly impossible since Alive shows that Tracer can still be hit with her blink available by a less mobile opponent. We also have to factor in thatthat Scout is extremely mobile. In the Meet the Scout trailer (and just his playstyle in general), Scout is CONSTANTLY running (except against the Heavy in MtS), and is out running a soldier's rocket and automatic fire from a sentry gun (level 1 mind you, but that's still firing faster than torb turrets of the same level). Not only that, but he was dodging a Heavy's mini gun that was firing at him from above as well.

      We do not know how Tracer has fared against more mobile targets than Widow and Reaper, so I made the assumption that not only would it be more difficult for Tracer to hit Scout (a far more mobile target), but Scout would still be able to land hits on Tracer even if she had her blink (he uses a scattergun, and we also can factor if Scout lands a Sandman ball on Tracer). An accurate fight between both of these characters would involve plenty of running, jumping, shooting, and blinking (at least until Tracer's chronal harness needs to recharge (Reveal)).



    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @Gr81

      It depends on how much of an advantage it is. Donkey Kong's strength and durability was a higher ratio than Knuckles' speed advantage. It's the opposite here, as even if Scout's given the strength and durability advantage (though the last one may be questionable since Tracer's calced to be Large Building Level) it isn't as big of a difference as the speed advantage is.

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @perashim

      Except even if Widowmaker's gameplay style isn't completely hit and run like Scout, she's shown to be incredibly mobile in the Alive trailer. Probably not Scout's speed, but certainly not like the typical point and shoot type.


      Plus, as I've mentioned before, the same logic would apply for Scout if we were going that angle. It'd be like saying that Scout struggles to get past very slow units like the Heavy since he did show some struggle in the Meet the Scout trailer and then was flat out destroyed off screen by him in Meet the Sandvich. Scout's practically owned in EVERY Meet the team videos, but I'm not gonna use them to lowball him.

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @comic428


      Tracer's durability I have to take issue with. She never tanked a large building exploding, nor did she get hit by her own pulse bomb. In Alive, when the shot shifts to the explosion happening overhead, Tracer is shown to have blinked out of it and off the edge with Widow following to line up her shot (Its at the 4:18 mark, she is definitely using her blink).

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @perashim


      Yep, that blue flash proves she Blinked out of there

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      Tracer tanking a Large Building level explosion is full of shit for one simple reason: Why wasn't her accelerator damaged?


      Widow damaged Tracer's accelerator by slamming her into a wall, so a PB explosion would flat-out obliterate it. Yet Tracer was still anchored to this time-space.


      Whoever calced that needs to remove it

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @perashim

      @Gr81

      I wasn't quite referring to the explosion in Alive.

      http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t...

      Go to Shad's post on this page

      http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t...

      And Metabro's on this one.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      Shad, and Metabro's, posts were SO full of shit, as JakeThePokemonMaster points out here: http://forums.screwattack.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t...

    • Ustpatrick FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      They nuthugged overwatch you should have seen it coming bro

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @Gr81 JakethePokemonMaster? Good luck quoting the guy who said "Tracer can't accelerate since normal humans can't control their inertia" despite the description of her ability and ignoring the fact that she's a fictional character which would contradict his arguments for Scout. 


      In case you were him, you REALLY weren't doing a good job holding your own in there.

    • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Okay.

      First up: Killing a baby bear? - Wow. Let's see him take on a fully-grown one.


      Second: Stop acting like that speed difference is so big. It's not Flash vs. Quicksilver level of difference, so stop acting like it.


      Third: Scout was mortally wounded and no doubt would've died if he hadn't received medical attention. And are you trying to say that Scout is more durable than The Heavy? Because it sounds like you're claiming that Scout is more durable than the Heavy.


      Fourth: Being hanged for a total of one second. so impressive.


      Fifth: His heart stopping? Organs spilling out? Like we ever actually see that. Scout's known to exaggerate things. Like the time he claimed to be a 'role model', and a team player. - That stuff is bullshit. Scout is a Casanova wannabe, who's also a glory-hound and is insecure in his own feelings. 


      Sixth: So, in that same situation, if your idol had been killed, you would be capable of thinking straight and be able to be fully capable of reacting to anything? - Also, good to know that you know for an absolute fact that if Tracer were to blink or recall while in contact with another human being, that there would be no negative side-effects. Good to know that you know more than what Blizzard has provided about Tracer.


      TF2 fanboy...

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @DudebladeX


      Baby Ussuris will still fucking destroy you if given a reason, and they are still larger, heavier, and thicker than an American grizzly of the same age


      Scout's still faster than Tracer, deal with it.


      He still took 3 rockets without vaporizing on the spot, something Tracer can't match


      Did you forget the part about how Scout survived being the "rope" in a tug-of-war between a superpowered Australian, who fights panthers and tigers barehanded, and the Heavy, who can suplex a mother Ussuri?


      There was nothing indicating he was exaggerating


      Tracer had ample time to avoid the wall, if her reaction speed was constant. Also, she works for a global PEACEKEEPING organization, she knows death comes with the territory.


      And yes, there are times when creators don't know everything about what they've created. For example: in episode 1 of the Japanese dub of Dragon Ball Super, the narrator says Goku gathered spirit energy from "all across the universe" to create the Spirit Bomb that destroyed Buu. However, if you go to the actual episode where Goku gathered the energy, you'd know he only took it from Earth.


      Oh, but there's no WAY the awesome and 100% correct Dragonball creators made such a silly mistake, right?


      So yeah, don't treat official statements as the freaking Bible

    • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      @ GR81 So you know for a downright fact, that Tracer blinking/recalling while in contact with someone has no negative effects? Wow. Blizzard hasn't even made a comment on that, and you already know more than that. And your attitude is giving off the vibe that the speed difference is Flash vs. Quicksilver levels of difference, when it's really not.


      And good to know that you're heartless and uncaring to not give a shit about one of Tracer's idols being killed. And the part here he's exaggerating? - How about the fact that he just slumps backwards? A real dead person would slump forward. Scout isn't as impressive as you make him out to be, JakeThePokemonMaster.


      Don't cite yourself.


      And before you deny anything, here's a comment that YOU posted, on Bowser vs. Ganon 

      TE5NHbTUOzu98YnDGYWshhJhOwJh-1at4zmn5X-a


    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @DudebladeX


      And you know for a fact Tracer's powers work on other people? We only see Tracer's powers work on Tracer, and no one else. So we can't assume they do.


      Scout is still faster than Tracer, deal with it


      Scout was already in a reclining position when he slumped backwards, dipshit


      You can't defend Tracer's victory, don't even try


      And how did you doctor that annotation? Microsoft Word, or something?

    • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      That was a screenshot. I know it. You know it. And unless you're a coward and you decided to delete the comment, anyone can see that you said it on Bowser vs. Ganon.


      And I'm not saying that Tracer is faster, all I'm saying is that you're treating the speed difference as if it's Flash vs. Quicksilver levels of difference, when it's clearly not. Tracer isn't that far behind. Deal with it.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @DudebladeX


      Scout's still faster, and you even admitted it


      You also know that's not what I typed on BvG

  • parlbyE

    1 year ago

    Ohh, Wait a minute. Why is Ken Masters doing in the next Death Battle? Do you know that I hate Ken Masters?

  • captain-deadpool FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Next time I think that it's going to be Ken Masters vs Andy or Terry Bogard. I'm going with Andy and Ken so Ken can avenge the loss of Chun-Li.

    • Mr_LRB

      1 year ago

      Personally, I'm hoping for Sub-Zero.

  • 0u0 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    trracer winning was reasonable... but what if they had medic/mercy backup??

  • Ubersupersloth FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    3:45 Hang on a minute, you're assuming she only started to dodge when the bullet entered the chamber yet the clip CLEARLY shows her reacting to Widowmaker aiming it at her, not yet having pulled the trigger. That's an error

    • luckysimon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Among many. For example, she can't rewind past an overload point. IE: the damage was done during overload. Even if the overload came back before he shot, she could re-wind to....exactly when her overload ended. IE: no damage reversal, and she'd still be in that spot. This was VERY biased.

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      Except you also have to take in the fact that Tracer just took an explosion to the face and both she and Widowmaker only fall down a foot or two before she's able to react and dodge it, making it all happen in WAY less than a second. Even if people are so stingy on when she reacted to Widowmaker firing it, those two aspects alone heavily improve the feat.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      It doesn't matter since Tracer not avoiding the wall in Alive makes the bullet dodge a huge outlier

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      You mean the wall that Widowmaker kicked her into after she was distracted by the helicopter and pissed at not defending Robo-Pope? Not the best defense.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @comicking428


      The wall Tracer had 3 seconds to avoid. Which she could if she was as fast as they say

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @Gr81 If you're trying so hard to lowball Tracer, should I even the odds by bringing up all the times Scout's lost in the Meet the Team Trailers?

      Why didn't Scout beat Heavy in Meet the Sandvich despite beating him before?

      Why wasn't Scout fast enough to dodge the Sentry gun in Meet the Demoman? 

      Why wasn't Scout good enough to avoid the sniper and soldier in Meet the Sniper and Soldier?

      Why wasn't Scout quick enough to dodge Engineer's missiles and sentry twice in Meet the Engineer?

      Why wasn't Scout speedy enough to avoid a faceful of bomb from the Pyro in Meet the Pyro?


      That's what it sounds like when you try to lowball Tracer to wall level. Scout should've been fast enough to overcome all of those if he was as good and quick as you're portraying him, but of course, I'm not gonna lowball him down to those levels because I know Scout can be better than that and he was going against some tough guys. I suggest you do the same.

  • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Thought that the unlimited ammo would have played a bigger part in this fight.

    • luckysimon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Why would it? Scout didn't even get to use half his weapons. Or even his double jump. They made all that deal about it in the lead up, yet do nothing to reference it. On top of having tracer's ult meter fill way faster than it does in game.

  • Agent1ndiana FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Other Overwatch vs TF2 battles I'd be interested in seeing:

    Soldier vs Soldier: 76

    Pyro vs Reaper

    Heavy vs Zarya

    Demoman vs Junkrat

    Engineer vs Torbjörn

    Sniper vs Widowmaker

    Medic vs Mercy

    And I honestly can't think of anyone (from Overwatch) Spy could fight, which is disappointing.

    (If anyone has any alternate ideas for Overwatch vs TF2 battles, I'd be interested in hearing your opionions too!)

    • LordTerminal FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Demoman vs. Junkrat is the only one of those I want to see. Afterwards, I'd rather find non-TF2 opponents for Overwatch characters and non-OW for the TF2 cast.

    • Gr81

      1 year ago

      @LordTerminal


      Winston vs Gorilla Grod?

    • LordTerminal FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      +Gr81 ......I could get into that.

  • Complix

    1 year ago

    I don't see my comment, so here it is again:


    Aku (Samurai Jack) vs Him (The Powerpuff Girls)


    Dexter (Dexter's Lab) vs Jimmy Neutron


    Totally Spies vs Charlie's Angels


    Rex (Generator Rex) vs Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes, DC)


    Mogo (DC) vs Ego (Marvel)


    Zeta (The Zeta Project) vs Octus (Sym-Bionic Titan)


    Bugs Bunny vs Mickey Mouse


    Freakezoid vs The Mask


    Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) vs Captain Planet


    Time Baby (Gravity Falls) vs Klorgbane the destroyer (Regular Show)


    El Santo (Mexican wrestling movies... and wrestling) vs Whatever champion WWE got. You can include Scooby-Doo movies as source.

  • g1SomeDude

    1 year ago

    Ness (Earthbound) vs. Kid Goku (Dragonball)

    Golbez (FF4) vs. Magus (Chrono Trigger)

    Battle Royale: Johto Starter Trio

    Kusagari (Red Steel 2) vs. Joe Musashi (Shinobi)

    Sakata Gintoki (Gintama) vs. Kenshin Himura (Rurouni Kenshin)

    Frog (Chrono Trigger) vs. Meta Knight (Kirby)

    Ash and Pikachu (Pokémon) vs. Kiyo and Zatch (Zatch Bell)

    Yusuke Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho) vs. Oga Tatsumi (Beelzebub)

    Mewtwo (Pokémon) vs. Sephiroth (FF7)

    Mario vs. Sonic Remake (SMBZ style)

  • Dalek01 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Genji (verwatch) vs Raiden (Metal Gear Solid)

    • LordTerminal FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      I think there are plenty of other robot ninjas and samurai Genji could fight that we don't need to waste him on bringing back Raiden.

    • HerculePyro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hercule Pyro

      1 year ago

      Raiden would destroy Genji

  • Complix

    1 year ago

    Aku (Samurai Jack) vs Him (The Powerpuff Girls)

    Dexter (Dexter's Lab) vs Jimmy Neutron

    Totally Spies vs Charlie's Angels

    Rex (Generator Rex) vs Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes, DC)

    Mogo (DC) vs Ego (Marvel)

    Zeta (The Zeta Project) vs Octus (Sym-Bionic Titan)

    Bugs Bunny vs Mickey Mouse

    Freakezoid vs The Mask

    Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) vs Captain Planet

    Time Baby (Gravity Falls) vs Klorgbane the destroyer (Regular Show)

    El Santo (Mexican wrestling movies... and wrestling) vs Whatever champion WWE got. You can include Scooby-Doo movies as source.

  • hulker

    1 year ago

    Winston (Overwatch) vs Gorilla Grodd (DC comics)


    Roxas (Kingdom hearts) vs Starkiller (Star Wars: The Force Unleashed)


    Alex Mercer vs Cole Macgrath


    Gray Fullbuster (Fairy Tail) vs Esdeath (Akame Ga Kill)


    Acnologia (Fairy Tail) vs Deathwing (Warcraft)


    Itachi (naruto) vs Byakuya (Bleach)


    Danny Phantom vs Jake Long (American Dragon: Jake Long)


    Gon Freecss (Hunter x Hunter) vs Yusuke Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho)


    Richard (Looking for Group) vs Judge Death (Judge Dredd)


    Illidan Stormrage (Warcraft) vs Sarah Kerrigan (Starcraft)

  • Riku102 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    idea for a Death Battle. Ruby Rose (from RWBY) VS Marluxia (From Kingdom Hearts)

  • therenagadepirotecniton

    1 year ago

    Most awesome DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!! Look foreword to the next one!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still would love to see any of the fallowing on DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Avatar Aang V.S. Caption Planet!!!!!!! Homer V.S. Peter!!!!!!!!!! Azula V.S. Raven!!!!!!!!!! Ty-Lee V.S. Shampoo!!!!!!!! Samurai Jack V.S. Inyushia!!!!!!!!! Aku V.S. Shadow!!!!!!!!!!! Caption Jack Sparrow V.S. Caption Hook!!!!!!!!! Chowder V.S. Gumball!!!!!!!!!! Frieza V.S. Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any of these would be most awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Complix

      1 year ago

      I want Aku vs Him: both funny shape-shifting masters of evil.

  • RonCapes FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    ScrewAttack should do a death battle for Ruby Rose from RWBY Vs. Maka Albarn from Soul Eater. Not sure if their skill sets are balanced enough to throw them at each other, but it'd be interesting to see. Then again they both may be too adorable to see die, lol <3

    • Overlordgab

      1 year ago

      I'm sure Ruby will be in the the episode after Ken's battle (perfect timing for Volume 4)

  • Ashtonwise FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    can we all just agree that we just want a Woodhouse vs Alfred Penny worth death battle?

    • Mr_LRB

      1 year ago

      How about Alfred Pennyworth vs Edwin Jarvis (the human, not the AI). 

  • Overlordgab

    1 year ago

    The VA was Ok; The animation was gorgeous! The action scenes are nearly flawless and well choreographed (Torrian should totally give a hand to RWBY animators for Volume 4)


    The research felt a little underwhelming. Although I know some people who are experienced in Vs. debates that will likely agree with this result, I'm not going to defend it if anyone were to give solid reasons as to why this match would go any different. Personally I won't be counting this battle so the last chance I'll give this show would be the next episode


    Now, regarding the next battle; do you remember when I brought up that Balrog could hurt Ryu, who can lift dozens of tons without getting crushed by the weigth? Well, the same Balrog was able to make Ken bleed with his punches. But there's one big problem, the show downplayed Balrog to Elephant level, so if we're going by such standards Ken must die in the next episode


    But if somehow 2-3 researchers on your team manage to provide an accurate picture of Ken's stats, there's might some hope of avoiding another wanker-friendly verdict

  • UsagiVSGoku

    1 year ago

    Well, today is my Birthday, and to see Tracer kick Scout's ass is a great presant! Thank's ScrewAttack!

  • JohnnyElRed

    1 year ago

    Seeing their abilities, there was no discussion to have in the outcome.

    You read our comments, but still haven't disabled the automatic reproduction.


    Anyone else thinks Geralt of Rivia vs Conan de Cimmeria would be a good match? I know what you are gonna say: Geralt is a witcher, he has enhaced senses and physique. What chance could stand a barbarian?

    Well, because he has done pretty inhuman things in his life. In the world Robert E. Howard created and others expanded, being a barbarian means that your abilities has not been tained by the civilization facilities. Meaning that you are much stronger and resilience that any "civilized" people, as barbarians see it. Enough resilience to being crucified and survived after hours of thirst on the desert, and strong enough to take down an assault tower by pulling a rope alone.

  • VinegarPie FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    He can still push the payload and cap points twice as fast, that's what matters to me. Scout the real mvp.

  • Senel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Senel

    1 year ago

    Oh all the DB's they shoulda just hired someone to make with SFM.

  • adeadphish FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So given it ended up being the deciding factor in this fight, I think we can call Tracer's pinpoint use of Recall the "Play of the Game"?



    • luckysimon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      Considering that they used the ability in a way that actually can't be used (can't be used past an overload point by canon) we can actually call her pinpoint use of recall Hax.

  • HumbleFellow

    1 year ago

    Scout hitting on Tracer at the start was a great touch.


    My choices for future Death Battles:


    Bastion vs E-102 Gamma

    Mei vs Mr Freeze

    Shulk vs Sora

    Marx vs Flowey

  • AsianEquation FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Asian Equation

    1 year ago

    It's so weird seeing the Scout animated outside of SFM. But regardless, loved the animation and Torrian as always never disapoints.
    I was a little bummed you didn't get the VA for Scout, even after he offered, but the voice you got is just as good.

  • bilgecat FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Honestly this match was over before it even started, seeing as they're roughly 80 years apart in technology. One's has time-travel, the other is an athletic guy.

  • jmb83 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    So, all you people upset about the result want some cheese with your whine? Seriously, why argue about an issue that is less important than the s*** that comes out of my a**? If you hate it that much, do your own show on your biased view (don't worry, I think Screw Attack has a biased view as well). I'll just keep watching these things for fun as that is all I care about.

    • Knee

      1 year ago

      Out of everyone in this comment section, you most closely appear to be whining.


      People are allowed to disagree with people's results. That's called discourse, a type of discussion, and it's healthy for a society. Rooster Teeth even puts a comment section here to allow this.

  • Knee

    1 year ago

    I'm sorry, but I think that was terrible.

    -Downplays Scout being strong enough to jump on thin air

    -Sandman Ball is never used; in that case, shouldn't he have just gotten the Atomizer or something?
    -Discussion on the Powerup Canteen (granting 15 seconds of Uber invincibility) and his upgraded body (including higher speed, a ridiculous Scattergun and Pistol, and resistance to bullets, explosions, and headshots) is completely absent despite it being canon Stock during/post Mann vs Machine, the last playable piece of the TF2 timeline

    -Magic spells like Invisibility and Summon MONOCULUS are absent, although this is a single forgivable point considering they're only active in October and under full moons

    -Scout also is not given the grappling hook, which when successful would've negated any effectiveness of Tracer's Blink
    -Call him a 'glass canon' after admitting that he canonically survives three either direct or blast radiuses from Rockets (surviving in the blast radius of three rockets is still a very impressive feat, there's also the fact that, not only do we not know the prior damage taken by people in Meet the Soldier, but canonically rocket jumping was used prior to staircases for even going upstairs in your house; finally, the camera approach in Meet The Medic DOES imply a direct impact)
    -Ridiculously bad Scout VA... sorry, just did not like him.
    -Scout stands around the majority of the battle despite speed being his game and him being faster than Tracer without time travel
    -Scout is shown to be distractedly in love with Tracer despite him canonically putting away all girls and saving himself for Ms Pauling
    -Scout cocks the Scattergun after every shot, wtf?
    -Scout takes multiple seconds of hesitation to fire shots at Tracer when she's stationary

    -While blocking the bat, Tracer takes no stun or staggering, despite Scout being strong enough to kill large bears with hollow bones
    -Tracer survives the Home Run.


    -Bonk literally just makes Scout slow and invincible (the canon effect makes him so fast that he can dodge bullets and explosions as they're about to connect with him; being unable to fire weapons and the slowdown are balance mechanics)


    -Scout is bound to gameplay mechanics like gameplay Bonk in this battle, while Tracer can abuse her Rewind and Blink at cinematics-level

    -Scout never double-jumps, not even while being combo kicked

    -Scout never uses the Sandman or Cleaver when the Sandman has basically become one of his signature attacks

    The win for Tracer feels forced. Maybe I'd be less dismayed if the battle was actually pretty good and better showed off Scout's overall faster speed vs Tracer's better short-term maneuverability, but it instead felt shallow and contained several inaccuracies. Felt like nobody on the research team actually knew TF2 lore or really cared about it.

    • CiferTorchwick

      1 year ago

      Favoritism. They do it all the time.

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      +Cifer

      Sorry, weren't aware you knew everyone at Screwattack and their personal preferences.

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @Knee


      I think the research teams do actually find everything that is missing (or at least most of it), but the issue is that who is responsible for using the research seems to be very "selective" about the research that he chooses to use. It's probably due to personal bias, a popularity stunt, or the guy deciding that using that much research would be too much work, so they took the lazy way. I do not deny that Tracer CAN win, but the odds are not in her favor against Scout.


    • VinegarPie FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 year ago

      They list the team that do research, I mean everyone has met these "researchers" on the forums they're just a handful of fanboys that jump on trends and personal biases. Hell I remember winning a discussion with AkumaTH and his answer was, "Oh yeah I forgot about that."

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @VinegarPie


      That explains a lot of the missing info if the research teams can get away with being that biased. I still think part of the problem is the guy who decides what research to use, but that's just my own opinion. It makes me shiver for the Ruby vs Maka fight (which I'm sure is coming), because we all know how THAT'S going to end regardless of actual information on both (to be fair, from the trailer, season 4 Ruby is looking to be MUCH more powerful than in seasons 1-3, so who knows? I wouldn't mind at all if Ruby won for all the right reasons).

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      @VinegarPie

      Mind explaining how Ultraguy, Lousy Tactician, and LSwan62 are fanboys with personal biases?Reasoning wise, I can see why some could get upset with Akuma, but that's the ONLY person they attack and claim the entire research team is like him. With no offense to Akuma, you can't define the entire research team by ONE person. Especially since they've debated with each other a number of times.

  • HerculePyro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hercule Pyro

    1 year ago

    How come they talk about how Scout is a hit and run character but he just stands still? He should be running around and jumping all over the place. One shot from his Force-a nature should decimate tracer before she can rewind (considering the speed it fires). And the fact that they let tracer have ridiculous levels of blinks (which isn't in the game) but restrict scout so much seems heavilly biased... I like tracer but Scout should have done much better than he did in this, the moment tracers blinks ran out Scout would have destroyed her.

    • SanicO6

      1 year ago

      The game isn't canon. Also you can see in the cinematic trailers with Tracer that she can use blink and recall as much as she wants until it overloads.

    • HerculePyro FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Hercule Pyro

      1 year ago

      True, but there is still the fact at the moment tracer loses her blinks scout would wreck her. And there's still the fact that he just stood still. Tracers can't hit genji for shit, the same would be for the scout.

    • comicking428

      1 year ago

      Except there's no guarantee that it'd malfunction before Scout would take advantage of it. Scout doesn't have everything going for him.

    • perashim

      1 year ago

      @SanicO6 @comicking428


      Actually her recharge is canon, as shown in the Overwatch reveal trailer when Reaper is doing his Death Blossom. She blinked, her harness's alarm went off, she couldn't blink and she had to dive for cover. It is also an extended recharge time before she could blink again.


      The way I see it, they used Cinematic Tracer (who is an actual threat to Scout at his best due to her extended blinks and maneuverability with those blinks) and used an extremely basic gameplay Scout.

  • goldy156 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 year ago

    Sterling Archer vs Stan Smith