Lucario VS Renamon

DEATH BATTLE!: Lucario VS Renamon

The fast and the furriest! With the ultimate battle of the fox and the hound underway, which lone warrior has the inner strength to win a duel to the death?


CREDITS

Wiz: Ben B. Singer https://twitter.com/BenBSinger

Boomstick: Chad James https://twitter.com/ScrewAttackChad

Writer: Sam Mitchell https://twitter.com/ScrewAttackSam

Animator: Aquila Harukaze https://twitter.com/AquilaHarukaze

Graphic Artist: Chris "Jerky" Bastin https://twitter.com/HyperJerk

Video Editor: Noel Wiggins https://twitter.com/NOELWIGGINSfilm

Voice of Renamon: Marissa Lenti https://twitter.com/LentiSoup

Battle Announcer: Chris Guerrero https://twitter.com/ChrisGuerreroVA


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Comments (148)

  • DCcheeseturtle

    1 day ago

    how does one pick the ultimate hero Fighter, mage or cleric who is superior there is only one answer to this meaninful question and it is death battle

  • lunchbox893 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    2 weeks ago

    Ooh, I just got a good idea for a Death Battle

    Saber (Fate) vs Ichigo Kurosaki (Bleach)

  • NickRich1 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Bigolympian

    3 weeks ago

    This is the first I've watched but Sam Fisher vs Solid Snake comes to mind.

    • lunchbox893 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      Yeah, they did that a couple seasons back

  • hulker

    3 weeks ago

    Samurai Jack vs Afro Samurai 


    Winston (Overwatch) vs Grodd (DC comics) 


    King Shark (DC comics) vs Kisame Hoshigaki (Naruto)


    The Lizard (Marvel comics) vs Killer Croc (DC comics)


    Daenerys Targaryen & her Dragons (Game of Thrones) vs Smaug (The Hobbit)


    Jon Snow (Game of Thrones) vs Aragorn (Lord of the Rings)

    • GunnarToeppe FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      2 weeks ago

      I feel like you're coming up with these only because the two are almost the same

  • therenagadepirotecniton

    3 weeks ago

    Most awesome DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look foreword to the next one!!!!!!!!!!! Still would love to see any of the fallowing on DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Avatar Aang V.S. Caption Planet!!!!!!!!!!!!! Homer V.S. Peter!!!!!!!!! Azula V.S. Raven!!!!!!!!! Ty-Lee V.S. Shampoo!!!!!!! Samurai Jack V.S. Inyoushai!!!!!!!!! Aku V.S. Shandow!!!!!!!!! Caption Jack Sparrow V.S. Caption Hook!!!!!!! Chowder V.S. Gumball!!!!!!!! Frieza V.S. Him!!!!!!!!!! Any of these would be most awesome to see on DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Evadson FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Geralt of Rivia vs Simon Belmont


    Doomfist vs Captain Falcon

  • TheNotRacistButt

    3 weeks ago

    Mr. Fantastic Vs. Plastic Man


    Cat Woman Vs. Black Cat


    Krypto Vs. Underdog 


    Space Ghost Vs. Buzz Lightyear 


    Sniper (TF2) Vs. Widowmaker (Overwatch)


    Demoman (TF2) Vs. Junkrat (Overwatch)


    Kung Jin (Mortal Kombat) Vs. Hanzo

    (Overwatch)


    Chi Chi (DBZ) Vs. Nicole Waterson (Gumball)


    Michael Scott Vs. Ron Swanson 


    Static Shock (DC) Vs. Shocker (Marvel)


    Rayman Vs. Earthworm Jim


    Jimmy Neutron Vs Dexter


    Alfred (Batman) Vs. Jarvis (Iron Man)


    Sandy Cheeks (Spongebob)

    Vs. Sally Acorn (Sonic the Hedgehog)

  • curtisg22 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Death Battle ideas:

    Big Boss vs Nick Fury

    Avatar Korra vs Storm (X-Men)

    Bob (Reboot) vs Tron

  • Yoshirocks92

    3 weeks ago

    Death Battle Requests:


    Noel VS Aigis (BlazBlue VS Persona)

    Sephiroth VS Griffith (Final Fantasy VII VS Berserk)

    Vergil VS Sesshomaru (Devil May Cry VS InuYasha)

    Dragonzord VS MechaGodzilla (Power Rangers VS Godzilla)

    Jin Kisaragi VS Ky Kiske (BlazBlue VS Guilty Gear)

    Sasuke VS Hiei (Naruto VS Yu Yu Hakusho)

    Green Lantern VS Nova (DC VS Marvel)

    Darkseid VS Thanos (DC VS Marvel)

    Crash VS Spyro (Naughty Dog VS Insomniac Games)

    Megatron VS Frieza (Transformers VS Dragon Ball Z)

    Blaze VS Azula (Sonic VS Avatar)

    Dio VS Alucard (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure VS Hellsing)

    Greninja VS Espio (Pokemon VS Sonic)

    Jago VS Liu Kang (Killer Instinct VS Mortal Kombat)

    Joseph Joestar VS Edward Elric (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure VS Fullmetal Alchemist)

    Nu-13 VS Justice (BlazBlue VS Guilty Gear)

    Dizzy VS Morrigan (Guilty Gear VS Darkstalkers)

    Jon Talbain VS Saberwulf (Darkstalkers VS Killer Instinct)   

    • lunchbox893 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Darkseid vs Thanos wouldn't be a very good match. Thanos has obtained omnipotence no less than 3 times, and has been defeated each of those times, including once by Squirrel Girl. He has a subconscious desire to lose, therefore the match is already decided, Darkseid wins. Next fight!

      Rule 2 of Death Battle does not apply in this case because the desire to lose does not stem from any morality issues, and Thanos has no problems killing anyone.

      Finally, Thanos' powers grant him anywhere from a degree of omnipotence to total omnipotence which by definition cannot be measured. A severe handicap would have to be placed on Thanos to even include him in the fight.

    • Yoshirocks92

      3 weeks ago

      @lunchbox983: You do realize that Darkseid VS Thanos is a really popular matchup and regardless that fight is going to happen and I feel like it'll be next year since it can tie in with Avengers Infinity War since that movie is coming next year and Thanos is the villain of that movie.

  • PhD_Charizard

    3 weeks ago

    Well, if the Pokemon Vs Digimon thing ever comes up again, Mewtwo vs Blackwargreymon maybe as a fight? I mean, they fit thematically. Plus, it's an excuse for metal gear rising music, and any excuse for metal gear rising music is a good excuse.

  • edd218 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    wouldn't be the first time I saw art of Lucario sticking his bone into Renamon

  • EternalAzhrei FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Gotta admit, a little disappointed that they were the same size in the battle. Not sure if it would have changed the outcome, but it said Lucario was about 3 feet tall and Renamon was 6 feet tall.

  • FireballDragon

    3 weeks ago

    Hoping more Pokémon combatants like Scizor or Greninja appear. Heracross or Hawlucha might be good choices. I really wanna see a Hitmon in there as well.


    Anyway, Deadshot VS Bullseye?

  • hulker

    3 weeks ago

    This was a fun episode here are some fight ideas: 


    Korra (Legend of Korra) vs Rey (Star Wars)


    Sigma (Mega Man series) vs Megatron (Transformers)


    Vulture (Marvel comics) vs Penguin (DC comics)


    Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell) vs Adam Jensen (Deus EX)


    Dinobot (Beast Wars: Transformers) vs Magma Dragoon (Mega Man series) 


    Mockingbird (Marvel comics) vs Huntress (DC comics) 


    Robbie Reyes aka Ghost Rider (Marvel) vs Jaime Reyes aka Blue Beetle (DC comics)


    Eva Unit-01 (Neon Genesis Evangelion) vs Gipsy Danger (Pacific Rim)

  • FireValk FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Want to throw afew ideas for Death Battle's out there : 


    Cinder (RWBY) vs Emiya Shirou (Fate Stay Night UBW)

    Winston (Overwatch) vs Attriox (Halo Wars 2)

    Yang (RWBY) vs Bakugo (My Hero Academy)


    Will be honest these just popped into my head as interesting match-ups not done a deep comparison.


    Keep up the good work guys.

  • Yoshirocks92

    3 weeks ago

    Well I've got to hand it to Lucario, he did pretty well in this one.

  • UsagiVSGoku

    3 weeks ago

    Amaterasu (Okami) vs Usagi Tsukino (Sailor Moon)


    Both are reincarnated goddesses, who’s first arc’s main villain was who caused their deaths in the previous lives. Both can use the powers of their allies (Amaterasu can use the powers of the other Brush Gods, while Usagi can use the powers of the other senshi). Both became the supreme god of their respective universes as well. Their ultimate foe was an incarnation of evil itself, as well as the two of them having some good opposites. One is a sun goddess the other is a moon goddess. Plus Usagi, while a human, has the name that so happens to be the Japanese word for Rabbit, so it’s also wolf vs rabbit. 

  • Stonewall57 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    So maybe it is answered in the commentary or you guys will talk about it in Death Battle Cast, but I can't figure out why you didn't allow Renamon to Digivolve. Yes, you said no trainers or tamers and no forms that are not natural. But digivolving is natural. That is why champion and higher level digimon exist without tamers, yes maybe Rika's Renamon couldn't digivolve without her, but that doen'st mean all Renamon can't achieve the next level without a tamer. I know I'm being nit picky and assumed this is how the fight would be, but I just wish you just said "For this fight we won't allow Renamon to digivolve because it would easily make her too powerful, and we want to see what she is capable of in her default form compared to a similar opponent." and not "No unnatural abilities." then not allow her to have all of her natural abilities. 


    Sorry for the rant, I'm sure I'm not the only one to say. I still love your guys and the work you do.

    • PhD_Charizard

      3 weeks ago

      I can come up with two reasons why screw attack possibly didn't let Renamon evolve:


      1: Typically, Renamon and Lucario are the ones portrayed in each line, so the thematic and pop culture based nature of the rivalry limited them to these specific forms


      2: Possibly to highlight the massive difference between outcomes from Digimon's lower and higher forms. A Mega level digimon is at around legendary strength, and often coated in super metal, giving most normal pokemon serious trouble. On the flipside, we have seen numerous times even comparatively weak pokemon such as Pikachu perform feats that would outdo many champion level digimon  (let alone Renamon). Since the high level digimon was displayed, possibly the opposite end of the inflection point had to as well. Personally, I'd demonstrate the "Pokemon vs Digimon in a nutshell" with Greymon vs Tyrunt and Wargreymon vs Tyrantrum, but that's just me.

    • evercross FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Stonewall57, you are correct in this statement. A normal Renamon could have evolved without a partner. If they were using Rika's Renamon specifically, they should have allowed the trainers/partners to be in the battle. Pokemon trainers generally don't do anything that really helps the Pokemon in battle. They increase tactics a bit by telling them what move to use and when, but that's nothing compared to what the Digimon Tamers do. They actually use their Digivices and cards to literally give their Digimon more power, speed, weapons, etc. As well as using them for Digivolution. The reason they didn't allow Renamon to DIgivolve is because she'd easily beat Lucario at that point because Digimon are significantly stronger than Pokemon when evolved.


      Also, I should state, Lucario is my absolute favorite Pokemon. Renamon is in my top 5 favorite Digimon. So I was good with either side winning, but I don't like the limitations they gave to Renamon for Lucario to win. Also, Lucario beat a rookie. So....honestly speaking, it's really not that impressive.

  • Finalsaber

    3 weeks ago

    I'm actually kind of disappointed at how predictable this was...  As soon as I watched the trailers, and realized that there were no trainers, it was kind of obvious that this was a throwaway battle to appease the pokemon fanboys...

  • Gamer3427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold taC terceS

    3 weeks ago

    I'm honestly kind of surprised there wasn't more focus on Aura Sphere, particularly the fact that it's both high powered and can't be avoided. That alone would be a pretty hefty advantage against any opponent who doesn't have a blocking move, or the ability to completely get out of range, (such as using dig or fly). Still, definitely one of the better sprite battles we've seen, and had a good mix between close and long range combat. My only complaint is that it felt a little bit short, but I suppose with Renamon's limited move set, drawing it out too much might have made it a little repetitive on her end. Anyhow, for my perpetual request for a Death Battle.....


    Beyond the Grave (Gungrave) vs Alucard (Hellsing)

  • Minme93 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I may be right but... Nooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! I am crying in my heart here..... Im gonna miss that cute fox!!!!!!

  • JB562 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Well, there goes one of my favorite Digimon. At least it has been proven in a previous DEATH BATTLE that if Pokemon and Digimon fought each other with their full potentials via evolution, Digimon would arguably win since the gaps between form are ridiculous. This fight would have been more epic if it were Korrina & Lucario vs Ruki Matsuki & Renamon, but no outside help allowed in this case. 


    Personally, I lean more towards Digimon because when it comes to human-to-creature relations, Digimon is more closer to a "human-to-human" type since many Digimon can talk, think & act like humans. By contrast, Pokemon is more of a "Master-to-Pet" because most Pokemon are over-reliant on their trainers commands and only FEW (i.e. Team Rocket's Meow and Detective Pikachu) Pokemon can physically speak while others (especially the movies) can somehow talk using telepathy despite most of them not being Psychic types (except Mewtwo). Furthermore, how can an individual be a "Pokemon Master" and "Friend to Pokemon" simultaneously? It sounds hypocritical and it is no wonder animal rights groups such as PeTA accused the series of encouraging animal abuse in a way that Pokemon battles resemble cockfights & dogfights, the latter two of which are considered cruelty to animals and banned here in the United States. After all, Pokemon are technically animals of the Pokemon Universe as they often speak the same words similar to real-life animals. (i.e. Pikachu says "Pika Pika" while a cat says "Meow".) Thus, are not Pokemon battles kind of cruelty to the Pokemon themselves? As for the Digimon, when they fight it is often for self-less acts such as protecting others and saving the universe from being dominated or destroyed by diabolical monsters. Thus, their fights are more justifiable, unlike the "Pokemon Battles to Cockfights" controversy.


    Anyhow, I cannot wait for the next DEATH BATTLE: Balrog (Street Fighter) vs. TJ Combo (Killer Instinct). These two African American boxers look tough. I am just going to go with Balrog since he is based on Mike Tyson. After all, in Japan he is known as "Mike Byson".

    • PhD_Charizard

      3 weeks ago

      If the Pokemon series themselves didn't discuss the relationship between man and Pokemon back in Gen 5, you would be on more solid ground. However, Team Plasma (a Peta expy) and N (Their leader and the protagonist's foil) brought up numerous times these facts, and the story of B&W goes into reasonable detail on why they are wrong. For the most part, Pokemon are considered friends and family among good trainers, and the end result is Pokemon being happy, the exact opposite of what one would want in a master-slave relationship. Separating a Pokemon from a good trainer is just as amoral as poor treatment of Pokemon. Both Red's and Ash's success (as ironic as success and Ash may seem) is primarily due to how they take great strides in becoming genuine friends with their pokemon.


      This is the core reason I'm pissed at the last Pokemon vs Digimon episode. Pokemon spent nearly 20 years (at the time) hammering in how the view that Pokemon are slaves is immoral and wrong, and yet Wiz and Boomstick attribute this relationship to Red, possibly one of the last people guilty of this (also, they attributed Digimon's saving two worlds thing to Tai's bond with Agumon, I may not have seen that episode, but that isn't the impression I got from the clip they used).

    • JB562 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      At least in Digimon, we DO NOT put creatures in tiny prison balls. Even though it is later revealed in the anime that they can get out of the balls any time, does it not still get cramped in there? Furthermore, even if it is true that humans & Pokemon can be friends, when it comes to fighting, Pokemon are STILL over-reliant on their trainers' commands making the relationship still "Master-to-Pet" (NOT "Master-to-Slave". Pets are treated much more kindly than slaves, although that is not really saying much). If the villains were smart, they would take out the trainer first and then the creature. Do not use the Pokemon rule book as an excuse in this case. In life & death situations, those do not apply. If there are any that apply, it is Sun Tzu's Art of War. One of those lines reads, "If his forces are united, separate them." 

    • PhD_Charizard

      3 weeks ago

      @JB562 you are right on the subject of Pokeballs. The first episode of the anime does point out the biggest pro and biggest con of the Pokeball. The pro is that you can carry around up to six different pokemon with different environmental needs. The con is that it is fairly cramped, and can cause cabin fever and claustrophobia, which is why Ash's Pikachu is beyond reluctant to go in. Whenever the franchise or literary papers discuss the subject, there is near universal consensus that the Pokeball is possibly the darkest aspect of the franchise. It's likely a consequence of the fact that Pokemon battles are a team sport, and as thus you have to build a team in order to compete, while Digimon you typically get one at a time, and thus don't need more to fight. 


      As for the Pokemon Trainer thing, not so much. Pokemon are less reliant on their trainers to actually fight, but trainers, well, TRAIN and can add different fighting styles, or patch up problems in a Pokemon's existing style (See Ash's Hawlucha). Pokemon likely started relationships with humans due to our ability to strategize, and together overcome obstacles presumed impossible.


      As for why the villains don't go for the trainers, they do. They fail at it, because a trainer has access to magical creatures with high power as a baseline, and because the trainer themselves are no slouch when it comes to durability (see almost every interaction between team rocket and Ash). In the Pokeverse, honor IS reason, which is why Team Rocket typically fail when they play dirty and have ironically high success when they play fair.

  • GardoMundo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    I knew this would be the outcome without trainers 

    • Stonewall57 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I know. I still enjoyed it, but it kind of suck that the outcome is obvious right away. Without digivolution Renomon obviously loses, with it she obviously wins.

  • Church_Am_I FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Defiantly thought Lucario was gonna lose, but praise Boomstick he didnt!! LOL 

  • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    hmm... feel like whenever they talk about pokemon the research and stats feels... inconsistent. like, here, they are said to not use any details about what a trainer can help a lucario learn but still use trained pokemon stats from the anime. 


    ehh, im sure im just still peeved at how they did pikachu long, long ago in comparison. 

  • Dawn_Bellwether FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Assistant Mayor

    3 weeks ago

    I love how they poked fun at the... "fan art" Renamon usually gets. 

    • Gamer3427 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold taC terceS

      3 weeks ago

      I was honestly going to be a bit disappointed if they didn't mention it in some way, because it's kind of hard to avoid seeing some of it if you're ever looking up anything digimon related in even the most work safe fashions......

  • lunchbox893 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Yeah, see, this is what happens when your "Diamond" Storm is made of freaking leaves and not actual diamonds. You cause paper cuts instead of lethal damage.

  • legofan1422 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Michelangelo of TMNT vs Jay Walker of Lego Ninjago! Both are the comedians of their group and both use Nunchucks

  • CunningOne47 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    No wonder Bone Rush is one of Boomstick's favorite attacks from Lucario's moveset.

  • Swonic FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Huh. Not seeing a lot of butthurt digimon fanboy

    • Harukeeley FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Nashicon Operations Head

      3 weeks ago

      Naw my only complaint is that in Agumon vs Charizard evolution could be achieved so why the change here. Plus Renamon can evolve to Kyuubimon without a tamer. But As far as Renamon vs Lucario base vs base Lucario was destined to win.

    • RMAura FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I still have no idea where people get the idea that Renamon can digivolve by herself.. I've looked everywhere to see if it was true and came across nothing..

    • lunchbox893 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Yeah, the only digimon I can ever recall digivolving without a partner or tamer was Myotismon. Even Diaboromon had a partner.

    • ZackOsbourne FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Just a Nobody

      3 weeks ago

      I suppose it helps that Lucario is fully evolved (I'd place it around Champion/Adult level) and Renamon is still a Rookie/Child level, so even with Digimon's power creep this outcome makes sense. Much like Pokémon, Wild Digimon evolve as they get older and/or acquire more power.


      @lunchbox893 Willis may have created Diaboramon but he wasn't it's tamer. It digivolved on it's own by consuming massive amounts of data. Other examples of tamerless digimon that digivolved are Leomon -> SaberLeomon and Etemon -> MetalEtamon at the back end of Adventure 01.

    • Stonewall57 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @RMAura @lunchbox893


      While it may not be specifically stated any digimon can evolve without a tamer, there are plenty of digimon that exist at champion level or higher without tamers. So in order to get there they had to digivolve because it has been shown that digimon start as eggs and hatch into a baby form and must digivolve from there to get stronger.

  • DarkPhoenixMishima FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    TJ can use his legs. It's his win.

  • NitrousWolf FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Great Content Ben and Chad! Always enjoy the hard work! Really liked meeting you guys at RTX by the way! Next fight should be good! KI doesn't get enough love from the FGC. Since we are on the subject, may I kindly suggest Spinal (Killer Instinct) v. Cervantes (Sould Calibur)? Hope to see it one day! (Also, Sonic v. The Flash) Thanks! :)

  • Armanyte FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Great battle but one thing bothered me. Heal Pulse isn't a form of recovery. It cannot be used on itself. Lucario has no way of restoring its own health, only that of others. I don't think this changes the outcome of the fight, but I think it's an important fact to note.

    • tsubori FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      While this is normally true, it has been used for self healing in the anime (A fight with a clawitzer comes to mind) and IIRC, in Mystery dungeon as well.

    • goldy156 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @tsubori do you know the name of that episode?

    • tsubori FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I'll do you one better, found the clip myself. Link

    • SamScrewAttack FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Tsubori is MVP of the comments today!

  • ZombieOfTheWest FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Can we get an original matchup already? I mean, I don't recall if we've had a Street Fighter vs Killer Instinct fight yet, but we've had enough characters from both of those and from fighting games in general. There are plenty of original fights waiting. 

    Alucard or any Belmont (Castlevania) vs. Alucard (Hellsing)

    Vaas the Stampede (Trigun) vs. Desert Punk (Desert Punk)

    All-Might (My Hero Academia) vs Wild Tiger (Tiger and Bunny)

    Duke Nukem (Duke Nukem) vs. BJ Blazkowicz (Wolfenstein)

    Samurai Jack (Samurai Jack) vs Sir Alonne (Dark Souls 2)

    Pyrrha Nikos (RWBY) vs Lucina (Fire Emblem) Kickass (Kickass) vs Scott Pilgrim (Scott Pilgrim)

    Raven (DC Comics) vs. Maleficent (Disney)

    And those are just a handful of original fights. Sure, not all of them are perfect, but they're better than most of the fights they've been doing recently. Hell, the last original fight they did, Strooge McDuck vs Shovel Knight sucked. 

    • spidermang10

      3 weeks ago

      >Complains about matches featuring franchises already used
      >Asks for matches with RWBY, DC, and Scott Pilgrim characters

    • ZombieOfTheWest FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I mean, they've used RWBY and Scott Pilgrim once and my suggestion wasn't for one of the dozen Marvel vs. DC fights, so I'm still being more original then this next fight is. I was more complaining about the same francises fighting each other. I mean, the best Marvel fight was Wolverine vs Raiden and the best DC one was Goku vs Superman. My one DC suggestion was against a Disney character, unique among Death Battle fighters unless you count the Star Wars characters. 

    • Mattardis FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Umm... No they've used TWO disney characters before. Goliath and Scrooge McDuck

    • spidermang10

      3 weeks ago

      >and my suggestion wasn't for one of the dozen Marvel vs. DC fights, so I'm still being more original then this next fight is


      Yeah, because we've had so many Street Fighter VS Killer Instinct fights, like...


      ...Oh, wait, you might mean that there have been plenty of boxer matches in DB, like...


      ...Uh...


      >My one DC suggestion was against a Disney character, unique among Death Battle fighters unless you count the Star Wars characters. 

      >Literally mentions Scrooge McDuck in the original comment


      Also, you're forgetting Goliath, and if you qualify something like Star Wars characters as Disney reps, then you're also forgetting every single Marvel character.

    • ZombieOfTheWest FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Oh yeah, I forgot those two were Disney. I forgot about Goliath because it's a fight nobody asked for or gave a shit about. And Scrooge was a shit fight, since they matched up a guy with physics breaking toonforce vs a guy with superhuman abilities and magic at most. But we've had so many fighting game vs fighting game character fights before and that's getting tiring. We just had Killer Instict vs Mortal Kombat like four episodes ago. And we haven't had boxers before? We've had wrestlers and that's close enough. It's boxing, there's a better boxing match happening in a month in real life. 

      If I took out all the fights I suggested from franchises that have already been done, that leaves five original fights. Plus, we've only had one RWBY and one Scott Pilgrim character, so those have potential to be interesting as well. More interesting than a damn boxing match.

    • RMAura FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      YOU FORGOT SCROOGE MCDUCK WAS DINSEY?

      Explain.

    • ZombieOfTheWest FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Disney is such a huge umbrella of franchises that when I said Disney in the original comment, I was more referring to the more modern feature films than the cartoons. Like how you typically wouldn't think about how Judge Claude Frollo and Goofy are both Disney characters. 

  • werdman24 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Great battle you guys.

  • OnyxKing FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Welp given Street Fighter's Losing Streak in Death Battle we already know who's gonna win the next one

  • MarioAlvarez FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    They said without the aid of a tamer, renamon can digivolve on their own, it happens all the time in the games, meaning they nerfed renamon on purpose to appease pokemon fans great

    • spidermang10

      3 weeks ago

      Without Tamers, Renamon can only Digivolve into Kyubimon, which ultimately doesn't have good enough feats to secure a win, especially since Lucario has taken hits from Pokemon who can do shit like this.


      It not appearing in the animation could've simply been due to a lack of sprites, lack of time on the animator's part, because it ultimately changes absolutely nothing, or some combination of those three.

    • PikaZ64 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Even if thats true Lucario has also mega evolved with out a trainer in the smash bros series so your argument is mute 

    • ZackOsbourne FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Just a Nobody

      3 weeks ago

      This was a Death Battle between Renamon and Lucario, when a wild Digimon evolves on it's own it's permanent, much like a Pokémon evolution, so it wouldn't be Renamon vs Lucario anymore if that happened.

    • PhD_Charizard

      3 weeks ago

      The thing is Renamon is by far the most famous member of her line,and is typically the formed paired up as Lucario's rival. Even fairly weak Pokemon as Pikachu are capable of doing many things that outdo Champion level Digimon (and Renamon, possibly due to being Data type, if my probably faulty understanding of Digimon typing is actually correct). On the flipside, Mega level Digimon are roughly on par with low tier legendaries (Think Zapdos, [email protected], and the tapus for examples), so any normal pokemon is going to struggle against them. A fact compounded by the near omnipresence of Chrome Digizoid Alloy, which means any Pokemon that struggle against steel is out of luck.


      In short, Greymon loses to Tyrunt, Wargreymon beats Tyrantrum


      (P.S., I chose the Tyrunt line instead of the Charmander line to compare to the Greymon line due to the fact that the Tyrunt and Agumon line are based on T.rexes and it's a better example)

  • CplSnorlax FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Professional Sleeper

    3 weeks ago

    Boomstick, don't you understand the internet? Rule 34 owns every form of media and video.

  • Jokerboxer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Short.

  • RMAura FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Also, what song was used in this fight? I'd love to know.

  • carltannler FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold HotCarl

    3 weeks ago

    That was closer than I thought. I figured Lucario would win easily, but the fact that Renemon could move at 9000 mph and Lucario could only reach that using extreme speed made it much closer. Great match!

  • LOUKI10 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Whelp, I guess Lucario got to bone Renamon...why are you looking at me like that?

    • Shadowwrath FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Dude. No. Just no.

  • LOUKI10 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Dude. Fuck every other fight until now, I am too damn hyped for the next one!

  • Tasobeats FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Next Time is another fight from that leak? Come on...at least try being less predictable, it's just not fun when we already know what fights are going to happen this or next season....

    Whatever, just please make sure Season 5's roster doesn't get leaked....

    Anyways, my 10 Death Battle ideas:


    1. Dexter vs Jimmy Neutron (Cartoon Network vs Nickelodeon)

    2. Harley Quinn vs Juliet Starling (DC Comics vs Lillipop Chainsaw)

    3. Sly Cooper vs Rouge the Bat (Sly Cooper vs Sonic series)

    4. Cole McGrath vs Alex Mercer (Infamous vs Prototype)

    5. Katara vs Juvia (Avatar vs Fairy Tail)

    6. Akame vs Killua (Akame ga Kill vs Hunter x Hunter)

    7. Dio vs Alucard (Jojo's Bizarre Adventures vs Hellsing)

    8. Krypto vs Underdog (DC Comics vs The Underdog)

    9. Albert Wesker vs Kazuya (Resident Evil vs Tekken)

    10. Ridley vs Metal Face or Sigma (Metroid vs Xenoblade or Megaman X)

    • PokeSEGA64

      3 weeks ago

      ... You say it like they planned on the leak actually happening.

    • Tasobeats FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I'm not saying they planned that to happen, I'm just saying that they should be more careful next time

    • DavidVickers FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Your complaint is that they're adhering to the schedule that they made...?

    • g1Lizardguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I've actively avoided the leak, so I don't have that problem.

  • UndeadPriest94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Honestly, I just came to see the next fight. Gave 0 care for this fight.


    Next Fight: Okay, NOW I'm interested.


    Requests:

    - Motoko Kusanagi (Ghost in the Shell) vs Adam Jensen (Deus Ex)

    - Akuma (Street Fighter) vs Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)

    - Deadshot (DC) vs Bullseye (Marvel)

    - Wonder Woman (DC) vs She-Ra (Masters of the Universe)

    - Apocalypse (Marvel) vs Black Adam (DC)

    - The Punisher (Marvel) vs Judge Dredd (2000 AD)

    - Samurai Jack (Samurai Jack) vs Goemon IIshikawa XIII (Lupin III)

    - Junkrat (Overwatch) vs Demoman (TF2)


    • UndeadPriest94 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Oh, why you be hating? The fight was fine and the result seems accurate, but I have little interest in Pokemon vs Digimon fights. The next fight, on the other hand, is interesting as it's boxing.

  • CSLMuramasa FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Demon Blade

    3 weeks ago

    Epic. Next one should be good. Though I have to ask: When are we going to see the fight that was previewed at RTX? Because that looks hilarious!

    • Raxxel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Preview at RTX? Hm?

    • Shadowwrath FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @CSLMuramasa Agreed. I can't wait for that or the Sun DBX.

    • Sonication99 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      What fight, exactly?

    • CSLMuramasa FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Demon Blade

      3 weeks ago

      @Raxxel @Sonication99 I don't want to say who because I don't want to spoil it for anyone who wasn't at RTX (or the people like my friends who didn't want to get up early for the panel). But it's animated in flash and they got some big name anime voice actors for some hilariously underwhelming characters. Not sure if that clears it up.

    • Sonication99 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @CSLMuramasa I don't care about being spoiled. Can you message me the fight, please?

    • Raxxel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @CSLMuramasa Message me as well please, I'm curious.

    • Blake104

      3 weeks ago

      Message me what the preview was as well? I'm curious and don't mind the spoiler.

  • godzylla FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    so, bonestrike sounds like a light saber? wow, i did not expect some a gruesome ending rite through the neck. like OUCH!.

  • g1Lizardguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    Yep, I was right. Without digivolution, Lucario stood much more of a serious chance, and won too. Although, I found the fight to be a bit on the short side. 

    Also, I knew they'd mention the sort of fans Renamon tended to attract.

    Finally, as for next time, winner should fight Little Mac.

  • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    3 weeks ago

    My Smash main won! WOO!

    Waiting on Punisher vs. Deadshot. Who has the better shot at winning? - Marvel's gruff ex-soldier, or DC's ultimate mercenary?

    • LordTerminal FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Wouldn't Bullseye make more sense as an opponent for Deadshot? I mean, not only is he an equally expert marksman with a gun but his gimmick is that he can hit his target with almost anything he can pick up and throw. Pencil tips, paperclips, cards, he even weaponized a poodle once.

    • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @LordTerminal

      But I prefer gunmen for this idea.

    • LordTerminal FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Fair enough I suppose.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I'd personally rather see Punisher v Judge Dread myself. They have similar methods, but are on opposite sides of the law. That being said I'd be happy to see Punisher in death battle either way.

    • DudebladeX FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      @DarkTempler7

      I made a character sheet for Punisher if you're interested in looking at it.

    • DarkTempler7 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      I've actually read it.

  • heelmax35

    3 weeks ago

    Request:


    Raven From The Teen Titans Vs Jean Grey Of The X-Men


    Oh Man..

    It would be such an epic fight


    Cool Battle 

    • Tasobeats FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      3 weeks ago

      Phoenix stomps horribly though....

    • heelmax35

      3 weeks ago

      Maybe you're right .. although the only thing that could save raven is his demonic form