Metal Sonic VS Zero

DEATH BATTLE!: Metal Sonic VS Zero

They're ultimate creations built for one purpose... to destroy! Which mechanical wonder will win this fight?


CREDITS

Wiz: Ben B. Singer https://twitter.com/BenBSinger

Boomstick: Chad James https://twitter.com/ScrewAttackChad

Writer: Nick Cramer https://twitter.com/THENervousNick

Animator: Luis "Jetz" Cruz https://twitter.com/CVAnimation

Graphic Artist: Chris "Jerky" Bastin https://twitter.com/HyperJerk

Video Editor: Gerardo Mejia https://twitter.com/HybridRain

Battle Announcer: Chris Guerrero https://twitter.com/ChrisGuerreroVA

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Comments (238)

  • JJSliderman

    1 week ago

    So, quick question: If Zero vs Meta Knight actually had happened, who do you think would have won? I personally feel Meta Knight would win, but that's just me

  • legofan1422 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Michelangelo (TMNT) vs Jay Walker (Lego Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu) Both use Nunchucks and are the comedians of their teams.

  • DC4EVER

    1 month ago

    The Kraken (2010) vs Godzilla (2014)

    Master Chief vs Captain America

    Darkseid vs Thanos

    The Flood (Halo)

    vs The Necromorphs (Dead Space)

    Blade (Marvel) vs Albert Wesker

    Alessa Gillespie vs Alma Wade


  • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Huh. Not that I'm disappointed (quite the opposite, actually), but I was expecting Metal Sonic to put up more of a fight. Considering that he's pretty much the love child of Sonic and T-1000, and he managed to win Eggman vs. Wily, I was expecting ScrewAttack to pull the old "this character is ridiculous" card, like they did with Superman, Sub-Zero, Terry Bogard, etc. You know, the Death Battle winners with in-universe feats that are just absurd... Yeah. I thought Metal Sonic was that guy for the Sonic universe. But I guess I stand corrected. However, Zero is ABSOLUTELY that guy for the MegaMan universe. I can safely say that Astro Boy is the only Death Battle robot (excluding Mechas) with feats eclipsing Zero's. But that's not saying much, considering that Astro Boy is more or less the Superman of robots.

    As for the next fight... This one sounds really boring. After all, it's been previously established that Digimon overall outshines Pokémon in terms of the chracters' feats. But I thought that Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye sounded boring, and I was impressed when I went back and watched it later.

    So... I guess I'll wait and see.

    • Graxdon FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      At least it was better than the last Sonic character's fight... fucking Mewtwo vs Shadow was ridiculous

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      @Graxdon Meh. I think that battle was poorly-handled more than anything. Plus, it almost seems like ScrewAttack is making a point of Shadow being the Butt Monkey of Death Battle.

      Either way, I think that battle should've gone on longer and showed off more of each character's ridiculous power.

    • g1Lizardguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Now to be fair, it's entirely possible that the next Death Battle could be without Mega-Evolution and Digivolution. If that's the case, Lucario has a chance, maybe even an advantage. If those are in, then yeah, he dead.

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      @g1Lizardguy Couldn't have said it better myself, g1Lizardguy.

      It's refreshing to see such clear-cut logic in a comment section.

  • FireballDragon

    1 month ago

    Looks like Metal's chances of winning... were Zero.

  • omegajackred666

    1 month ago

    Old me if he could see into the future to see this episode. God damn you ScrewAttack for not properly researching Metal Sonic.


    New me I understand Zero has major advantages that can counter everything Metal Sonic can do. I learned a great deal of watching runs on Mega Man X games. Zero is very powerful for a robot that should be considered god like. He truly is Wily's ultimate creation to go even beyond what Metal Sonic's true potential.


    Also I already stopped caring about debates. I am on the verge of not watching this show over my lack of interest. Why can we just get along already?

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      One compound word with two syllables, my friend: butt-hurt.

  • hulker

    1 month ago

    Eleven (Stranger Things) vs Lucy (Elfen Lied)


    Mad Max vs Snake Plissken (Escape from New York)


    Fox Mulder (The X-Files) vs Dale Cooper (Twin Peaks)


    Isis (DC comics) vs Storm (Marvel comics)


    Black Lightning (DC comics) vs Electro (Marvel comics)


    Jaime Reyes/Blue Beetle (DC comics) vs Robbie Reyes/Ghost Rider (Marvel comics)

  • legofan1422 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Do these guys take requests? 'Cause I've got a great battle in mind. Michaelangelo from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vs Jay Walker from Lego Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu. Think about it they both use Nunchucks and are the comedians of their team!

    • g1Lizardguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Actually, they do. Here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfcCLT9Vqq3ReEJvhSy-4HSXE_REtwXen0AAwNHYOKPEWW7uQ/viewform?c=0&w=1

  • JMeisterJ FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Ummmm, Trying to be a Le

    1 month ago

    Everytime the person I like more I expect to win they lose, everytime the person I like more I expect to lose, they win hahaha.



    This was a really cool match

  • GreyGhost9036 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Angry Beaver

    1 month ago

    Damn was not expecting that ending. Im definitely happy with the results though. I hope Laurence sees this and this resparks the sonic vs flash debate they had on Dude Soup. Or i hope they make a sonic v Flash 1 minute Battle. 

    • Bismuth73 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      @GreyGhost9036 I actually think they did. And I believe that the Flash won.

      As for the debate, I find it highly amusing. Because the Flash would DESTOY Sonic. Why?

      Well... regularly running at close to the speed of sound is cute and all, but the Flash has run at over ten times the speed of light.

      If I were to summarize why Flash would stomp, I would say this: the Flash has the consistant ability to run at Ludicrous Speed.

      But if you want more justification, here's a comment I found under the Flash vs. Quicksilver Episode:



      "Usain Bolt is the fastest human on record, with speeds around 28 mph.

      Spider-Man can reach speeds up to 200 mph.

      Sonic the Hedgehog's normal running speed is Mach 5, or 5 times the speed of sound.

      Rip Van Winkle's Magic Bullets travel up to Mach 33,

      Quicksilver once ran across the globe at Mach 640,

      Decepticon Missiles can go as fast as Mach 1,419,

      Mega Rayquaza smashed a meteor at mach 13,815,

      And Beerus and Goku in Battle of Gods fought at Relativistic speed(near the speed of light) before several drops of water hit the floor.

      Sora's Keyblade can shoot beams at 3 and 1/2 times the speed of light,

      Dr. Fate once outran the Big Bang at 100 times the speed of light,

      The Warp Drive on the Starship Enterprise goes over 1,300 times the speed of light,

      Iron Man in his fastest suit once flew 111,000 times the speed of light,

      The Millennium Falcon moves as fast as 9 million times the speed of light,

      Silver Surfer flies at around 32 million times the speed of light,

      Superman once flew from one edge of the universe at 270 billion times the speed of light,

      Green Lanterns can travel up to 40 trillion times the speed of light,

      Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan can dodge attacks going at over 7 quadrillion, 861 trillion times the speed of light,

      The Alien playing Galaxy Marbles at the end of Men in Black was moving at least 2 quintillion, 932 quadrillion, 848 trillion times the speed of light...........

      .......Wally West, as the Flash, after absorbing kinetic energy from the earth, outran instantaneous travel at a minimum of 23 tredecillion, 759 duodecillion, 449 undecillion times faster then light."

  • AggravatedDamage FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Warlock of Wrath

    1 month ago

    That was a really well animated fight.

  • therenagadepirotecniton

    1 month ago

    Most awesome DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look foreword to the next one!!!!!!!! Looks like it'll be Pokemon V.S. Digeymon agine!!!!!!!!!!!! With that said still would love to see any of the fallowing on DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!! Avatar Aang V.S. Caption Plante!!!!!!!!! Homer V.S. Peter!!!!!! Azula V.S. Raven!!!!!!!!!!! Ty-Lee V.S. Shampoo!!!!!!! Samurai Jack V.S. Inyoushia!!!!!!!!! Aku V.S. Shandow!!!!!!!! Caption Jack Sparrow V.S. Caption Hook!!!!!!!!!! Chowder V.S. Gumball!!!!!! Frieza V.S. Him!!!!!! Any of these would be most awesome to see on DEATHBATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mr_LRB

    1 month ago

    While I'm glad Zero won, it's too bad that I won't be able to make any jokes about WHAT HE WAS FIGHTING FOOOOOORRRRRRR! 

  • HabemusMagnus

    1 month ago

    Huh, so I got my wish for a 2.5D-ish fight, nice. Loved this episode.

  • hulker

    1 month ago

    Cool episode can't wait for the next one, really want to see a Star Wars vs Star Trek themed episode here are some ideas:


    Captain Kirk vs Han Solo


    Data vs K-2SO


    Chewbacca vs Worf


    Benjamin Sisko vs Saw Gerrera


    Captain Picard vs Grand Admiral Thrawn


    Borg Cube vs Death Star

    • Dex122sg FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Picard VS Thrawn was a battle I didn't know I needed.

    • g1Lizardguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Borg Cube would kill Death Star.

  • Doodlelexi

    1 month ago

    Well actually compared to the last digimon vs pokemon it was too one sided. Wargremon is WAY to over powered, plus you put him against a dragon. Whish is what he basically is powerful against. Renamon is strong but i think its more evenly matched. I know renamon will win still but this is based on typings. Lucario being a steel/fighting type gives it a weakness to fighting and fire. Renamon can technically count as a fighting/psychic type. If they do bring in mega evolution and digivolution in then there is a chance that lucario could win since renamon looses that fighting type and becomes a full psychic type. Even with the type advantage sakuyamon is powerful but  is also mostly known as a support digimon. But I'm still gonna root for digimon on the next one!

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      While I have major problems about the last poke vs digi episode (There doesn't seem to be really anything at all comparing power levels between Charizard's formes and Greymon's formes, ignoring Charizard's inherent steel and fire resistance, Charizard's capacity to melt anything (and that's the baseline), and the COMPLETELY WRONG CONCLUSIONS ABOUT POKEMON AND FRIENDSHIP! (and the flawed conclusions about Digimon and friendship), I am somewhat interested in this one. Who wins, however, is dependent on whether they keep to base forms or jump to max forms. 

      If base form, then Lucario wins since Renamon is reliant on being hard to track and is a close range fighter, while Lucario can track aura (nullifying' Renamon's agility) and is a mixed range fighter. If max form, then Renamon wins because apparently people automatically assume that Mega Digimon are well beyond Pokemon despite the fact that Mega Pokemon are roughly on level with Legendary Pokemon (which has been shown multiple times to be on par with Mega Digimon in at least area of destruction, and being able to completely stomp some Mega Pokemon requires being well beyond Arceus, a being capable of making universes on a whim).

    • Mr_LRB

      1 month ago

      @PhD_Charizard On a whim? Arceus created the universe simply by being born. 

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      @Mr_LRB Yeah I came to the conclusion that Arceus vs anything is in Arceus' favor (unless he decides to play fair, then his base stat total is 720, only dwarfed by mega mewtwo and mega rayquaza (also playing fair). I mean, either you fight honorably, or you fight something that can make universes on a whim (This is canon. In HGSS, there is an event where if you have Arceus, you can get a Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina. He does this by MAKING ANOTHER UNIVERSE). Worse, what's stopping Arceus from changing variables in those universe, variables that leave you powerless. And what's stopping Arceus from trapping you in a universe where you're powerless, never to escape. And since this is Death Battle, what's stopping him from making that universe close to death. If Arceus decides not to play fair, there really isn't anyone that can beat him. Except Saitama, he can't lose, ever.

  • Kyouma95

    1 month ago

    By the way, does this mean Wily officially wins the Season 1 army battle? 

  • Kyouma95

    1 month ago

    Great episode guys! Really liked the animation. Almost seemed like 3d instead of just sprites at some points. Research seemed on point and detailed as well.


    I'm really excited for the next Death Battle! Lucario FTW 

    • Doodlelexi

      1 month ago

      Naw renamon will win for sure! Still a pretty good matchup.

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      it depends on if this is a base forme or max forme fight.

  • siegscarlet

    1 month ago

    I'm questioning the next matchup because of the one DB season finale you had. Though if it's something people have been debating about for ages, it should be a spectacle to watch.

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      I got the impression that the particular season finale in question was rushed, due to the *ahem* flawed reasoning. This variant, however, seems to be a mon v mon base fight, which would PROBABLY have a different result.


      IMO, one could make a show about comparing pokemon and digimon (and other mon series) to see who would win specific match ups. They would have to be careful, since they are constantly juggling different worlds with different laws of physics, with mons that are basically apples and oranges.

  • JJSliderman

    1 month ago

    I'm pretty sure only Awakened Zero is immune to Time stop

  • Sowinskimi

    1 month ago

    Death Battle Request:

          Sokka v Jaune(Rwby)

          Luffy v mr fantastic 

          Naruto vs Natsu

          Black Canary vs Quake.

  • Minme93 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Amazing fight. Anyway. Lucario vs Renamon? This will be a massive stomp here..............

  • lunchbox893 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Lucario vs Renamon? Oh FUCK THE HELL YES!

  • Patch793 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Which mix of x vs zero did you guys use for the fight? I gotta download it! So catchy!

  • GardoMundo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Digimon better win 


    I love Lucario but digimon are op AF

    • JJSliderman

      1 month ago

      I think it's actually base form only this time since both are known for fighting alone

    • scullerz

      1 month ago

      @GardoMundo also have to consider if there going of lore power or in game power - because lucario is more powerful in lore than in game - being able to predict oppenents moves simply by reading there aura and using minor telepathy- and the more damage he takes the stronger he becomes as his aura amps itself up - all without its mega evolution 

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      Yeah, this looks like a base forme fight. In that case, Lucario wins. Renamon is reliant on being hard to track and is solely a close range fighter. Lucario can track aura, and is a mixed range fighter. 


      Also, a quick question, what is the max area of destruction Renamon has produced? I asked this because if it's small, then she is in for some real trouble, because Espurr, a pokemon roughly on par with pikachu, is canonically capable of destroying multiple football fields (After the first Pokemon vs Digimon episode, I spent some time trying to come up with a way to compare power, area of destruction is the best I got, and there is something serious where something I believe is ultimate strength on one side (High) is pre-teen equivalent on the other (350bst, which is fairly low). Of course, I doubt that will ever be mentioned, but if this fact comes anywhere in this debate, Renamon goes from disadvantaged to screwed.

  • Yoshirocks92

    1 month ago

    Death Battle Request:

    Noel VS Aigis (BlazBlue VS Persona)

    Yu VS Jotaro (Persona VS Jojo's Bizarre Adventure)

    Sasuke VS Hiei (Naruto VS Yu Yu Hakusho)

    Vergil VS Sesshomaru (Devil May Cry VS InuYasha)

    Joseph VS Edward (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure VS Fullmetal Alchemist)

    Spinal VS Cervantes (Killer Instinct VS Soul Calibur)

    King Dedede VS King K. Rool (Kirby VS Donkey Kong Country)

    Blaze VS Azula (Sonic VS Avatar)

    Dizzy VS Morrigan (Guilty Gear VS Darkstalkers)

    Jin Kisaragi VS Ky Kiske (BlazBlue VS Guilty Gear)

    Dio VS Alucard (Jojo's Bizarre Adventure VS Hellsing)

    Darkseid VS Thanos (DC VS Marvel)

    • MockNova FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      As much as I want to see King Dedede vs King K. Rool, unfortunately King K. Rool doesn't have NEARLY as many feats as king dedede, due to his lack of games, making this a stomp.

      also, Darkseid vs Thanos sounds awesome

    • Yoshirocks92

      1 month ago

      Well I do see your point and the same could be said for Wario as well since Dedede stomps him and this is one of those times in which Bowser should return to fight King Dedede.

    • FireballDragon

      1 month ago

      Brainiac VS Ultron would also be a good one.

    • Yoshirocks92

      1 month ago

      @FireballDragon: Indeed though I prefer Sigma VS Ultron more but I'm ok with Brainiac as well.

  • Yoshirocks92

    1 month ago

    Though I know who won this fight and spoilers never bothered me at all, I'm glad that I made the right call with Zero despite me being a Sonic fan but hey Zero finally broke that losing streak by getting a win for the Mega Man series.


    As for the next fight, Oh boy I've been waiting for the next one since OMM did that fight and finally it's happening. :D

  • Six_Winged_Angel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Looks like another win for Digimon


  • ZackOsbourne FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Just a Nobody

    1 month ago

    I've never been a fan of Sonic or Megaman, but if I've learned anything from Death Battle, it's that old-school video game characters are ludicrously overpowered.


    As for the preview, another Pokémon vs Digimon episode? Yeah, no, Lucario's f*cked. Power wise, it can probably match the Rookie form Renamon, but it's typing (Steel/Fighting) makes it weak to Kyubimon's fire, and Taomon's Taoistic spells from across the franchise have so much utility any advantage Lucario could muster would be shut down fairly quickly. That's not even considering the obscene power of most megas (Renamon's are Sakuyamon and Kuzuhamon). Unless Mega-Lucario has some ridiculous secret lore power this is going to go the same way as Greymon vs Charizard; a complete curb-stomp. 

  • nicholi417 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I am really excited for the next one.

  • FierceBeast FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    i would love to see Adam Jensen vs Motoko Kusanagi

  • madcapguy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Shout out to Mirror B's battle theme at the end.

  • Fyroth FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Prof. Puppy Wrangler

    1 month ago

    Definitely looking forward to the next episode. The OMM is probably my favorite, and I've been looking forward to a true Death Battle for them. Even though it's a bit of a cop-out, I'm actually hoping for a similar ending.

  • Akodo FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Zero's voice actor, was that Johnny Young Bosch?

    • MockNova FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Yes! I was excited too! They used voice lines from Marvel vs Capcom

  • AnotherSpencer FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Still waiting for a battle with Golgo 13 or Ryo Saeba from City Hunter.

  • EternalAzhrei FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    Thanks for including some of the Megaman Zero games for Gameboy Advance in there, even if only for a moment.

  • mvt997 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    for a second i thought miror b. was going to be in the next battle

    • thrawn92 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      Makes you wish that Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness (and maybe even Colosseum) got a reboot, right?

    • Tasobeats FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      @thrawn92 I actually hope the brand new Pokemon RPG Nintendo is working on for the Switch is a Collosseum/XD-like game

  • TenaciousPOD FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

    1 month ago

    I'm new to Death Battle, but I think I've figured out how to predict the winner of every time. All I gotta do is pay attention to the character descriptions, carefully weigh the pros and cons, guess which one I think is right, then pick the other character because I'm always wrong lol.

    EDIT: Also, just wanna say the animation for this looked awesome.

    Spoilers for this battle
    Glad to see Zero won, I always thought he was an awesome character and I've never gotten particularly attached to the Sonic games.

    Spoilers for next battle
    Super stoked to see Renamon and Lucario, seems like a solid match up and I haven't heard the name Renamon in years.

    • Raxxel FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I know I'll get downvoted for this, but you're absolutely correct. And it all comes down to presentation. DB has a habit of playing up the loser's strengths and downplaying their weaknesses during analyses to make the battle seem less obvious. It's a bit of a flaw, but I don't blame them for it. This show, in the end, is just entertainment. Which is why I enjoy it and often think people take it too seriously. Even if there is an outcome I disagree with or got wrong, I shrug and move on with my day.

  • carltannler FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold HotCarl

    1 month ago

    Next match at first glance seems like it shouldn't be a match. Renamon's mega form, Sakuyamon has control over 4 elements, one of which is fire, which Lucario is weak against.  Plus, as we've seen, most mega level digimon are on a completely different level than any pokemon. Mega Lucario isn't as strong on paper as Mega Charizard and WarGreymon had no competition taking him out. Hell, Metal Greymon probably could've done it, but it looked way cooler to have WarGreymon do it. 


    That being said, Sakuyamon, along with Gallantmon, and Megagargomon, couldn't take down one of the digimon sovereigns.  We learned recently that the Dark Masters were able to defeat the digimon sovereigns with relative ease, and the sovereigns had to sacrifice a digimon just to hold off the Dark Masters for the time being.  Piedmon, leader of the Dark Masters, is stronger than WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon combined, but they still held their own, Piedmon had to resort to magic based attacks since he couldn't match them in strength...he turned them into keychains...  So by comparison it actually makes Sakuyamon look like a fairly weak mega.  So we shall see, Death Battle has surprised me many times before.


    Also, loved this episode.

    • carltannler FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold HotCarl

      1 month ago

      Update: found some digimon stats. Just by comparison on paper, Sakuyamon is stronger than Shine Greymon(Not burst mode).  Sakuyamon has a total of 2978, which is Health points, digi-soul, attack, attack speed, and defense, while Shine Greymon has a total of 2908.  So if they apply these stats to what we see in the show then Sakuyamon should have no trouble considering how strong Shine Greymon is even without burst mode.  But it's also very difficult to properly calculate digimon strength considering the strength of friendship shit has so much more of an impact in digimon than it does pokemon.

    • The-Gaming-News-Guy FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold Sir Regent Malcolm Neill

      1 month ago

      The problem is that Sakuyamon requires Rika and Rika may not be included in the DB

    • carltannler FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold HotCarl

      1 month ago

      @The-Gaming-News-Guy Exactly, it may be better to leave Rika out.  Digimon partners are just super complicated, we'll see how they handle it.

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      Wait, there are numbers for digimon, well damn, I was basically trying to compare Pokemon to Digimon based of area of destruction, and using that to roughly guess it's comparative base stat total. Damn, we could get some proper conversions to stats.

    • carltannler FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold HotCarl

      1 month ago

      @PhD_Charizard There are numbers, but getting a conversion will be very tough. Although comparing destruction areas is tough too considering in the digital world data is being blown up and there's no way to know if it's comparable to real world materials. Basically this fight will be based on a lot of assumptions. Should be fun though.

    • PhD_Charizard

      1 month ago

      @carltannler Yeah comparing Pokemon to Digimon is surprisingly difficult, since in one world everything that moves is made of iron and in the other anything that isn't human is either made of frail material or covered in supermetal. Area of destruction is possibly the closest thing we can compare, since if we can gauge how much area, oh say a z-move or an object or area explicitly mentioned (Ex Tyranitar is capable of destroying mountains, and practically every other pokemon movie is some legendary (low tier or Uber) threatening a city), we could at least get some rough estimates on where a pokemon like pikachu winds up in comparison to digimon (my bet, definitely higher than Rookie and probably higher than Champion). 


      Oh, Almost forgot, if anyone is wondering how strong a pokemon like Espurr or Pikachu can be, Austin pre-game theory scienced it:


    • evercross FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

      1 month ago

      I just want to point out, technically, Renamon does NOT need Rika to become Sakuyamon or Kuzuhamon. Digimon isn't just a TV series. It's also a video game. If they're using the Renamon from the TV series specifically, then two things come into play. One, she would need Rika to become Sakuyamon, assuming they are using evolved forms. Two, if they are not using evolved forms, Rika can power Renamon up using her playing cards.

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    1 month ago

    Oh, I am really looking forward to the next match!

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    I thought for sure Metal had this, but after seeing the math break down, I can't even come close to trying to argue. GG guys.

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      I knew Zero had it when they said he could stop time AND attack.

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    That was a pretty good fight, and the animation was top for a 2-D battle. Hope to see more like it, albeit slightly longer. Though, despite looking visually good, some more sound effects during the fight would have made it better. Namely, some impact sounds not having the oomph that I think it should have had. Those are minor things though, and can easily be fixed in the future. Overall though, great episode.


    *looks at next matchup*


    Well. It was bound to happen sooner or later. As much as I like Pokémon more, I think Renamon is gonna end up winning the next Death Battle.

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    Could you please not animate like that again? Frankly, it looked terrible.

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      XD that's a funny joke. 

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    great video. Would love to see a  brock samsom (venture bros) vs sterling archer (archer)

    • LOUKI10 FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      Or Brock Sampson vs Afro Dynamite.

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      I'm more of a fan of Brock Sampson vs. either Luke Hobbs or Hoss Delgado.

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    So  is this after Metal killed Dr Robtnik and Wily?

    • MaxOfFewTrades FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      Death Battle doesn't have continuity. 

    • g1DoubleT FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      Max is right, also if you remember, Wily didn't bring Zero into that fight.

    • PokeSEGA64

      1 month ago

      @MaxOfFewTrades Meh. We like to think it does. Makes things fun.


      *fondly remembers the Chuck VS Segata constellation in Guts VS Nightmare*

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      @MaxOfFewTrades didn't Leonardo vs. Rash start from where the TMNT Battle Royale left off?

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      @Raxxel Well, technically, nothing really about the fight even implied that to be the case really.

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    Definitely my new favourite death battle! (even beating out Joker vs SweetTooth)

  • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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    this is... kinda interesting. from what im hearing, the Megaman/sonic cross over kinda shows that Metal Sonic is alot faster than ZeRo. regardless, cool analysis and great animation. 

    • spidermang10

      1 month ago

      >from what im hearing, the Megaman/sonic cross over kinda shows that Metal Sonic is alot faster than Zero.


      There were no Sonic/Mega Man crossovers with Metal Sonic and Zero, since Zero didn't appear in those crossovers until World's Unite, which did not have Metal Sonic.


      Not to mention that we generally consider those kinds of crossovers non-canon in VS Debates, since they usually have to sacrifice how it would realistically go due to licensing/plot (Wolverine beating Lobo, anyone?), and since both characters have shown better feats outside of those events.

    • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      @spidermang10 uhm. so, the reason why the sonic/megaman comic shows is faster than Zero (if its considered) is because sonic is shown to be faster than quick-man himself, effortlessly so (or whoever they were talking about in the analysis). 


      One common thread about these characters is how they were scaled based on their original's stats (this battle is probably the most blatant time they've relied on power-scaling, which is cool). with the comic in mind, since sonic is faster than quick man (the guy who was used to calculated Megaman/Zero's speed) it stands to reason that Metal sonic's speed would also scale higher than quickman. 


      Just based on these facts, its not completely clear how much faster Metal Sonic is base on this (tho it seems like sonic is shown to be move ALOT faster in his quickman fight than megaman was), but metal sonic would edge it out extensively if we apply his ability to just amplify his speed (by 8? i think that was the number).


      and ya, its possible that they discounted the crossover if they decided it was "non-canon" but... that would be plain wrong because the Sonic/Megaman crossover is actually canon. this is pretty interesting to find out. idk if it would've affected the outcome but it was interesting to see. 

    • spidermang10

      1 month ago

      @AzuStar

      First of all, Zero has multiple blatant FTL feats, from dodging projectiles made of light, reacting to teleporters who've shown FTL travel, and literally outrunning black holes.  Even assuming Sonic is faster than Quick Man, it changes literally nothing.


      Secondly, these were the Archie versions of those characters, where Quick Man has not shown faster than lightning feats, and Sonic (Since this was Pre-Genesis Wave, which is not used in Death Battles due to it being far above Sonic's canon showings) has shown several of those kinds of feats.


      Also, even if you were to say it was canon to the Archie versions of the characters, it got retconned out of existence anyways.


      Plus, again, crossovers usually sacrifice how things would realistically go due to licensing and plot.


      And if you still want to use the Sonic/Mega Man crossovers, then Sigma is exponentially above everything Eggman has (And the entirety of the Sonic and Classic!Mega Man verses, for that matter), and Zero defeats him on a daily basis, so...

    • JJSliderman

      1 month ago

      Er...Archie Solaris mate

    • spidermang10

      1 month ago

      @JJSliderman

      Outside of being mentioned in a guidebook, Solaris does not even appear in Archie Comics.


      Not to mention that Solaris is considered an outlier for regular Sonic, and there's no reason to even scale Metal Sonic to him, so there's no point in bringing that up in the first place.

    • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      @spidermang10 i JUST said at the end that idk if it would've affected the outcome but you're all "if i wanna use this feat SO bad" and dropping megaman names as tho im suppose to instantly recognize the depth of inferiority the power levels the sonic world when "sigma" is mentioned. like chill, if there is a legit speed feat in whatever you said cool but like i just found it interesting that the crossover comic of these two iconic characters was somehow canon and allegedly had relevancy to this fight. like it would've been more interesting to me now if you said he beats the "oh so terribad sigma" in base form but i dont know if ZeRo has to go into Megas-doubleblack™ proponent mode every time to fight him, i dont actually follow Megaman lore so if you wanna bring up any and every feat you can think up to debunk this one feat that, probably wouldn't have changed the outcome atleast EXPLAIN them. 


      like what is this "quick man isn't shown to be going at lightning speeds in the manga" line? is there a reason he would be holding back? is he an inferior model there? what is the point even about? does he actually need to be outpacing lightning every time he fights someone or is it that no one said it out loud? obviously there could be a legit reason that you haven't explained but it sounds like you're just arguing point just because its against you and i dont have the ENERGY. 


      and you talk like you're apart of DB which is cool if true but my problem there is that a couple of the point you make dont seem to follow general thought process they display in these analysis. Like, you bring up dodging "light projectiles" as FLT feats But DB usually doesn't use those kind of feat cause they're kinda funky (like when they didn't use any of the times Zoro dodged light based attacks and instead calculated his speed based on some unclear guesstimation). its a misconception that i see the people in the forum fall into, that a projectile "made of light" is assume to just "move at lightspeed" just because it's made of photons. the reason light moves at its speed is because it weightless and a condensed ball on photons made to do damage has mass and therefore cant be assumed to move at lightspeed based on normal physics. Your other "FTL" feats seem to fall into a similar hole of "look, its in the name of the attack so it must be legit". im not saying that what ZeRo was dodging was/wasn't a blackhole definitively, im saying that an attack that isnt literally pulling apart everything around it and expanding indefinitely probably wouldn't be considered a real blackhole by DB. 


      Honestly its kinda funny to think about, there probably arent that many characters to have actually dodged/outpaced legit light (ie, when you turn out the light in your room) besides phineus and pherb.


      your talk about not including this cause "it goes against canon" also gives me alot of pause cause on one hand they used Boom knuckle's theme song action (his volcano feat) as a valid feat for him; on the other hand, they did use scrooge's boat/coin feat as a legit speed feet for him even he doesn't display this anywhere else in canon and, in the podcast, they were actually laughing about it being a thing. the concept of "it goes against canon" goes against DB's principles of research since they've stated they LOVE finding out these crazy things these fictional characters do. the concept "its goes against canon" also doesn't make sense cause its apart of canon... its just a feat that shows a character can go faster than their previous source showed them and DB has always been about using characters at their full potential. that's why they do research, they want to take the characters at their BEST so there's nothing someone could dig up AND to make sure they do justice to the character. they even brought in an ability android 18 had in a GAME for her fight cause "nowhere said they couldn't so...".  


      again, im not saying that metal sonic SHOULD win. i dont think sonic outpacing quickman would make up for all the advantages ZeRo has listed in this fight. Im not even saying that your "FTL" feats shouldn't be considered at all. All im saying is that there's this super cool crossover that was apparently canon, meaning that the world of sonic/megaman are just connected in a way now, and if it was considered it would've changed a stat for one characters. like, i dont care that much about metal sonic beating ZeRo, i actually assumed ZeRo would win before the details were out. but sure, Sigma trumps everything in any sonic universe and ZeRo decimates him with his metal boot.


    • spidermang10

      1 month ago

      @AzuStar
      >Doesn't know who Sigma is
      >Sigma was literally mentioned in the video, and beating Sigma was used in the reasoning


      Sigma is the main antagonist of Mega Man X, and in the second Sonic/Mega Man crossover, he was the big bad, and was shown to be exponentially above Eggman's forces, so even using those crossovers (Which you honestly shouldn't, mind you) would make Zero stomp Metal.


      If you know next to nothing about Mega Man, then why are you even arguing this?


      Pre-Retcon Archie has never been used for direct feats in a Death Battle (They've mentioned them, but never directly used them), and Archie was never canon to the games anyways, so the crossovers aren't canon (And they were retconned out of existence, so...)


      The Archie versions of the characters are far different from the canon ones, so we can't compare them to their canon counterparts.  That version of Quick Man has never been stated to move "faster than lightning", and the version of Sonic that blitzed him (Which, again, was not used) has better feats than anything canon Sonic has.


      The black hole Zero outran was made with gravity and space-time manipulation, and could suck up projectiles made from manipulating the light spectrum, so yes, it would be comparable to an actual black hole.


      Also, yes, lasers are lightspeed, that's literally how they work.

      >Brings up Phineas and Ferb, of all things, when discussing FTL characters

      M8, it was blatantly said and shown that they were moving slower than light in that episode.


      >they even brought in an ability android 18 had in a GAME for her fight cause "nowhere said they couldn't so..."

      Ben literally apologized on Twitter for including that because he realized it was wrong, so...


      TL;DR: World's Collide is not canon to anything outside of a retconned universe, Zero's best feats are legitimate, and this entire comment chain has changed literally nothing.

    • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      @spidermang10 why are you being like this? Stigma was "in the video" but he wasn't used for the top speed feat of the video so why are you mentioning it? why are you doing this? why are just trying to find points to argue? You could've AT-LEAST told me stigma was faster than quickman and then it would've atleast been relevant. 


      "and this entire comment chain has changed literally nothing."


      what is wrong with you? why do you say this? Look at all you've done here. everything you've nitpicked, everything you've greentext, you're saying all you've done changed nothing? and you still do this? like, why are you trying to pick apart anything you can while saying nothing matters? worst part is that your ass is the kind that will still probably continue with this act even after stating this but WHY. like, was anyone expecting DB to just scrap all their calculations because of whatever? Is it the wording of my original comment that bothered you? if so im sorry but i didnt put much thought into it cause the accuracy of whatever didn't mean much to me. Like lowkey thanks for reminding me about that feat in phineas and pherb thing except i guess nothing in this thread changed anything so i guess that didn't matter either.


      "You know next to nothing about megaman, why are you even arguing this" arguing WHAAAAT? actually no, y'know what? what do you think i was arguing with my original comment that would make you think otherwise? i dont.... like its INTERESTING that there's a sonic/megaman crossover. its interesting the the world of fucking sonic the hedgehog for Sega and Megaman from Capcom are just somehow connected and this connection potentially could affect a SINGLE BASE STAT but naw i must've been coming for ZeRo's ENTIRE mechanical life when i was explaining how the crossover could be relevant. 


      actually wait a damn minute you dont have a star next to your name how did you see this video already. if you've been pulling all this shit and you haven't watched the episode i swear to GOD.

    • JJSliderman

      1 month ago

      I was moresp talking about how he said Sigma solos Megaman and Sonic

    • spidermang10

      1 month ago

      @AzuStar

      The very first thing you said involved Worlds Collide, which is a crossover that is not canon to the main continuity, and is about as usable as Wolverine beating Lobo, Storm beating Wonder Woman, or Venom beating Superman (All of those were in supposedly "canon" crossovers, by the way).


      Even if it somehow would be considered, Mega Man and Bass (Who are both far inferior to Zero) were able to keep up with Sonic and Metal in that very same crossover, so the whole "Sonic outran Quick Man" is completely irrelevant.


      Worlds Collide and Worlds Unite are not even considered canon to the separate canon that they're based on, and even if they were, the point about Zero being fast enough to keep up with Metal still stays.


      That's what I meant by "it changes nothing", because your only point does not even matter.


      Also...

      >Tried to argue that Zero's FTL feats aren't legitimate

      >ZeRo

      >Stigma

      You know, if you would try to debunk FTL Zero, you could at least get the damn names right.


      >if you've been pulling all this shit and you haven't watched the episode i swear to GOD.

      How would I even know that Quick Man and Sigma were used in the verdict if I didn't watch the video prior?


      @JJSliderman

      I was referring to how Sigma was considered above everything in Sonic and Classic Mega Man in the Worlds Unite crossover (Which is basically saying "Even if you consider the crossovers canon, Zero still rekts")

    • JJSliderman

      1 month ago

      That was God Sigma, not regular Sigma. Sigma absorbed a shit ton of energy to reach that state

    • AzuStar FIRST Member Star(s) Indication of membership status - One star is a FIRST member, two stars is Double Gold

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      @spidermang10 "How would I even know that Quick Man and Sigma were used in the verdict if I didn't watch the video prior?"


      ???? forums??? idk you first brought up sigma when this was just a speed feat thing


      there's no star next to your name. that means you COULDN'T HAVE WATCHED THE VIDEO UNTIL IT CAME OUT TODAY. IT LITERALLY ONLY CAME OUT FOR FREE MEMBERS TODAY. even if you somehow got around this, you clearly wouldn't have watch this with that account which is still???? You just came here early with a free account to argue in the comments??? this is so messy. like i have NEVER. wild. 


      "Even if it somehow would be considered, Mega Man and Bass (Who are both far inferior to Zero) were able to keep up with Sonic and Metal in that very same crossover, so the whole "Sonic outran Quick Man" is completely irrelevant."



      learning that you couldn't have watched the video until today, its /kinda/ makes sense that you dont fully understand what i was talking about so ill, go over it. im pretty sure i've talk about this before but, to start off with megaman being an inferior version of Zero is actually a big part of this video's theme. 


      megaman being able to keep up with quickman was used as a reference point for the best speed feat Zero had in the video, as well as the best speed feat between both contestants. the reason Sonic running circles around quickman is relevance is BECAUSE it put sonic directly at the same level as megaman.


      when i was talking about Metal sonic being faster than ZeRo i'm referring to a particular ability stated in the discussion. apparently metal sonic has the ability in his base form to just amplify his speed like 4 or 8 times. 


      so basically Sonic and megaman can match quickman > metal sonic and Zero are "superior versions" > metal sonic has a base amplification ability. this is literally the entire thought process i had.


      "You know, if you would try to debunk FTL Zero, you could at least get the damn names right."


      the only reason i dont confuse Metal sonic and mecha sonic currently is because one was in SMBZ the names of these fictional characters dont mean anything to me as long as you understand who im talking about and thats why i've decided to make Zero's name Oval and sigma's name Sticky for the duration of this comment. to be fair you can think of a name for Metal sonic, i suggest Useless hedgehog scraps, its pretty long but accurate. 


      now, slow your roll, im NOT trying to debunk whatever FTL feats you pull out for Oval, i was just confused by you saying "we" as tho you were apart of DB in anyway. my questioning of your FTL feats was because they're the kind of feats the forum gets mad at DB for ignoring (like in this video). Oval dodging light based projectiles or dodging an attack thats "like a black hole" could be FTL to someone else somewhere. hell, DB could've used those feat and i would've respected/understood it just as well. it was just that you seemed to act like you were affiliated with DB even tho the logic wasn't the same. just me trying to grasp what the situation is.


      "Worlds Collide and Worlds Unite are not even considered canon to the separate canon that they're based on"


      listen dude, i gave you a source that just says it's canon in my second comment. You saying its not is not going to convince me otherwise. Like im not saying DB was even wrong for not using it, as they possibly have a legit reason for not using it themselves. im just saying your reasons for why it should never be considered wont matter to me over what a legit source says.


      "and even if they were, the point about Zero being fast enough to keep up with Metal still stays."


      its a fight between two characters from fiction... like i mean, i GUESS Oval is more important to the megaman fandom but stiiiiiilllllllll. your tone makes me feel like i shot your dog or something. 


      "That's what I meant by "it changes nothing", because your only point does not even matter."


      i mean, dude... you actually trying to meet me half way and saying, and i quote "Oval being fast enough to keep up with Roboto the character™ still stays" actually does change something. as in the only thing my comment was about. like you meeting me half way here is really important id say and if i never made this comment we would've never reached this understanding. 


      like... i dont care about "definitively" arguing if Metal harbor could beat Oval or not. I've said already that i thought Oval would win and i dont even know if this feat would change anything. i dont even care about arguing specifically if Oval is faster than whoeverthefuck, you got speeds feats? cool dude. legit cool. he can outrun a blackhole? awesome man. i dont need Metal scrap zone to beat Ovaries at anything. you wanna argue who would win at... tic tac toe? that's nice. 


      if you want to find someone who's as passionate as you on this subject to argue with? the videos now out on youtube, go nuts. 

    • spidermang10

      1 month ago

      @AzuStar

      A friend streamed it the day it came out for members, but it's not really relevant to this discussion at all, so there's no reason to bring it up.


      > the reason Sonic running circles around quickman is relevance is BECAUSE it put sonic directly at the same level as megaman.


      Again, even if you want to argue that, Rock kept up with Metal Sonic in that exact same comic, and since Zero is exponentially above Mega Man, he's more than fast enough to keep up with Metal.


      >it was just that you seemed to act like you were affiliated with DB even tho the logic wasn't the same.


      I'm not affiliated with Death Battle in the slightest, and nothing I said even hints at that.


      >i gave you a source that just says it's canon in my second comment


      And I told you in my reply that it's canon to a continuity that is completely separate and different from the actual continuity, that it was retconned, and that they did not even use that continuity for this fight.

      So, again, it is not canon to either Sonic or Mega Man's canon universes, and the universes it was canon to were straight up not used, so there's no reason to even bring it up.


      >your tone makes me feel like i shot your dog or something

      >Coming from the person who called me an ass, when I never insulted you at all


      Yeah, sure.


      The reason I kept going with this is because you kept bringing up a feat that is not usable, and you keep treating it as canon despite being in a completely different continuity.


      I was just trying to clear up misconceptions, but then it turned into this.

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    Very nice animation. Love the constantly changing camera angles and close ups. 

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    Wicked animation! 3D models reminded me of Final Fantasy 7 models!

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    Pretty good fight, but I had my suspicions the winner would be as it turned out. The next fight could be interesting, as while Lucario is definitely a strong pokemon, he's a final evolution and even with Mega Evolving, I don't know if the power scaling will hold up well in comparison to Renamon if she fully digivolves. Still, it'll be interesting to see how it plays out, particularly if they take more info from the show/movies for Lucario, as I haven't watched the show in forever so my only real point of reference is the games. Anyhow, for my perpetual request for a Death Battle.....


    Beyond the Grave (Gungrave) vs Alucard (Hellsing)

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      Can renamon digivolve without a trainer?